Physics exists as a system of equations and theories which happen to fit with reality.It's just a way for us to explain what happens in the outside world.
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Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:33,
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But surely Maths is just equations which explain the relationships between quantities and distances and areas and volumes.Almost all known fields hinge on some vitally arbitrary measure, whether that be numbers or letters or words, both maths and physics could no doubt be rethought it completely different ways with nothing which even resembles numbers. But it would still be the same expression just using different measures.
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Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:40,
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Yes, that sounds about right.You seem to be agreeing with me now that numbers are useful, but made-up things.
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Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:43,
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Yes, but I'm in the camp that all known language, science and knowledge is an adequate representation of how we experience things.But nonetheless is all made up. I don't think it's just numbers.
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Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:46,
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Ok.This is strange. I don't think I've agreed with anyone on b3ta before.
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Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:48,
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That's probably because agreement is only the synchronisation of false concepts.*nods gravely*
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Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:55,
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^ thiswhere "reality" is "the brain's interpretation of the signals provided by the body's sensory apparatus"
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Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:41,
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Ah, now we have philosophy of mind in the mix too.That's a useful thing to know about, because it can undermine basically any argument.
I know I've pissed off a few people with it in the past.
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Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:44,
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I found I can't take 'real' Solipsists seriouslyAnyone who doesn't believe in other people is possibly dangerous
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Tue 1 Apr 2008, 18:58,
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As a Solipsist I would take exception to that comment.But i'm afraid I can't because you don't exist.
I think even the most hardened of Solipsists don't actually think that other people don't exist, because that would be a blatant assumption on par with god like faith. They can never be sure, and they can never really know if other people experience the same degree of consciousness they do, nor if anything they see or interact with is a real representation of reality.
I wouldn't say they are dangerous though, the philosophical types tend to be quite depressive and non influential in the greater scheme of things.
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Tue 1 Apr 2008, 19:05,
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I think even the most hardened of Solipsists don't actually think that other people don't exist, because that would be a blatant assumption on par with god like faith. They can never be sure, and they can never really know if other people experience the same degree of consciousness they do, nor if anything they see or interact with is a real representation of reality.
I wouldn't say they are dangerous though, the philosophical types tend to be quite depressive and non influential in the greater scheme of things.
go and tell it to Descartes ;)I'm quite fond of the solipsistic view myself, as long as one doesn't cross a certain border. It's always good to bear in mind that the world we perceive is literally virtual to an extent, but one should nonetheless accept it as 'reality' in everyday life.
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Tue 1 Apr 2008, 19:17,
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