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Humanist thinking about death - with that nice Stephen Fry.
Cause my daft old EMC & RF colleague died the other week. He had a few years of retirement, pottering about in his shed with his ham radio.
Firm believer in ghosts, he was, but never so much that he'd use the massive collection of highly sensitive equipment at his disposal to test any spooky theories.
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Invisible Wizard - 13th Level Scrote, Tue 19 Oct 2021, 19:00,
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Sad he only got a few years.
I can sympathise, lost my old cat (16yrs) and a partner of over 20yrs in the same week in June.
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FeralCatMan Long ads need comments sections, Tue 19 Oct 2021, 23:05,
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Not that I want to be the nihilist killjoy in the room
but I'd contend that self-affirming concepts like meaning and purpose are just as much hollow constructs of wishful thinking as belief in an afterlife
sorry to hear about your mate
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Tue 19 Oct 2021, 23:21,
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I'm with you
Meaning is attributed not intrinsic.
We die and are forgotten.
Death of a valued individual requires the survivor(s) to accommodate the change internally and externally.
Whatever you do or feel, they have gone.
There is no point.
Have a nice day.
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FeralCatMan Long ads need comments sections, Wed 20 Oct 2021, 1:07,
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yeah, I wasn't making a point about the right way to grieve
I tend to agree, and think it's a bummer no matter which way you slice it, if it's someone (or some cat) you'd rather were still around
It's more about the pretensions to rationality of the video, and with quite a few people I've encountered who seem to think their atheism conveys some sort of intellectual gravitas on themselves. Putting deism to one side, I commonly find they still seem to accept a lot of other nebulous concepts with likewise little evidence to commend them other than it would be comforting if they were true
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Wed 20 Oct 2021, 4:47,
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Death doesn't bother me as much as the suffering of the living.
Many people will accept almost any explanation that relieves them of the burden of loss.
too pissed to be this profound
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FeralCatMan Long ads need comments sections, Wed 20 Oct 2021, 6:57,
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^this
And in relation to our species (see yesterday's silly headline)
Also in the video they suggest we should find solace in the thought that our atoms are going to end up in trees, birds and butterflies. But our atoms might end up posthumously in the haemorrhoids of some fat cunt.
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Mudface The web isn't callipygian, Wed 20 Oct 2021, 5:14,
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yeah, I saw that headline
I think his credibility is in tatters, given that he was previously telling us that things can only get better. Which is it, Cox? Make up your bloody mind
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Wed 20 Oct 2021, 5:37,
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Pffft
(Time to stop drinking and go to bed)
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FeralCatMan Long ads need comments sections, Wed 20 Oct 2021, 6:49,
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If you really believed that you would have understood the pointlessness of your comment
All that matters is what gets you through, if developing some kind of spirituality gets you through. Whatever works, the only thing that matters is our state of mind.
If there is no point, stfu =)
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simbosan nuck nuck nuck, Wed 20 Oct 2021, 4:10,
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well, I could get into the often dichotomous tension between our nucleus accumbens' mediated evolved behavioural motivations and higher order conceptualised thought of the prefrontal cortex,
and why I might do any particular behaviour whilst still acknowledging its fundamental pointlessness, but given your valediction I'm guessing you're not feeling receptive to such a discussion
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Wed 20 Oct 2021, 5:15,
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Don't forget our microbiome and face mites
They have their own agenda
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Mudface The web isn't callipygian, Wed 20 Oct 2021, 5:22,
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I never do anything without consulting them
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Wed 20 Oct 2021, 5:27,
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Yeah, meaning is what you make of it.
It's a construct of course. But lots of people feel like there is no meaning without some sort of religious input. I posted this to remind myself to look for meaning for myself.
Me me me, soz.
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Invisible Wizard - 13th Level Scrote, Wed 20 Oct 2021, 14:40,
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it was just about the hypocrisy of the video
they could have put their own view on dealing with death and loss without making an attack on alternatives and claiming rational superiority
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Wed 20 Oct 2021, 21:55,
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It's not much of an attack to state that there's no evidence to support a belief
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Invisible Wizard - 13th Level Scrote, Thu 21 Oct 2021, 18:10,
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anyway, I'm sorry for focussing on that point just because the tone of it raised my hackles
when it sounded like you and feralcatman had recent shitty news and were thinking about your loss. probably the wrong time for my metaphysical wankery, is what Im trying to say. We all have shitty weeks and tragedies, and I'll support my b3tan brothers when they need it
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Fri 22 Oct 2021, 8:22,
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