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Smaug says: Ricky Gervais. Lesbian pr0n. Going into a crowded bar, purely because it's crowded. All these things seem to be popular with everybody else, but I just can't work out why. What leaves you cold just as much as it turns everyone else on?

(, Thu 15 Oct 2009, 14:54)
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Education/Work
You go to school, college, uni, get good grades and land a decent/well paid/likable job (delete according to circumstance). After working your arse off for over ten yeas, you finally get your first proper, grown-up monthly wage. The joy of this moment is then ruined forever when you see what's been taken out of it by Mister Brown/Darling. Now, don't get me wrong, I know there are are many good things our taxes go to (I find it rather reassuring to know that if I was in a car accident someone would scrape me up, get me back to full health and send me on my way without saying "here's a bill for £120,000")
However, the main thing I strongly object to paying for is... Benefits.

Now, I'm not talking about the genuinely disabled and their carers, who deserve ever last bit of help they get, and more on top. I'm talking about the mouth-breathing dossers who intentionally "finish" their education at 16, pop out a couple of kids by 18, then spend the rest of their useless lives sat on their arses watching Jeremy Kyle and insisting that the state owes them a living because they can't (read: "won't") find a job.
(Ok, maybe there's a little more truth in that at the moment, but before the banks shit themselves there was much more opportunity out there)
Those who say "there's no hope for these people" are talking bollocks too. There are enough education and free training schemes out there to get these people out of their situation and let them make something of their lives. But why should they when our taxes will keep them in all the free cigs, booze and oversized plasma TVs they want?

Workshy unwanted scum, the lot if them!
(, Fri 16 Oct 2009, 10:14, 2 replies)
i hate to agree with this
but i think i may have to. i would love to have a job, but due to ill health, there is no chance of that for at least 5 years. i know healthy, strong, active women who will not even attempt to find themselves work because they have children. my sister has an 11-year-old daughter. she took maternity leave, then went straight back to work. my younger sister has a 13-year-old son and 17-month-old twins, yet she is determined to find a job.
one of my neighbours, on the other hand, went out of her way to get pregnant for a fourth time when the social told her she would have to start looking for a job.
(, Fri 16 Oct 2009, 14:31, closed)
I agree with this in part
As the person above said, there are people who push out another child when their eldest turns 11, so they don't have to work. They moan that the government doesn't pay them enough, but have a packet of fags and a Plasma TV in their possession. They get Sky TV, contract phones (though sometimes that is cheaper in the long run) and shop from magazines.

One of my friends has never worked a day in her life and has 7 children, and fully expects the government to fork out if she has more. Another, when working out the bit on a form that says 'the amount the law says you need to live on', appealed with a list including 'alcohol and cigarettes'. She called me a hypocrite when I said that the government will pay to help her give up smoking, because I smoke. Difference is, I earned my money.

I don't have a problem with genuinely disabled people, but if you have no intention of getting a job (and are capable of working), then investigations should be done. When I lived in a hostel, I heard these people saying 'why should I get a job?'.

They make me mad. McDonalds is NOT too good for them. And has anybody else noticed that phantom backache is rising?!
(, Sun 18 Oct 2009, 16:40, closed)

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