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# Agreed
but the BBC and Moffat are both referring to Capaldi as the 12th Doctor, so I left it at the Hurt 'Doctor No More' and one-persona-Tennant numbering for now.
(I helped save b3ta! ferret -> twitter.com/syfyautocorrect <-, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 10:33, archived)
# are they? how queer
I could have sworn it was Moffat's counting that I was remembering
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 10:35, archived)
# Hmmm maybe I'm wrong
the BBC (and therefore the press) are calling Capaldi the 12th:
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/galleries/p01qr11y

But I can't spot a quote from Moffat now.

Seems like he should 14th to me, or possibly 13th as Tennants persona didn't change (more like he wasted a regeneration rather than made use of it).
(I helped save b3ta! ferret -> twitter.com/syfyautocorrect <-, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 10:46, archived)
# maybe they changed their mind on Hurt being a Doctor and Tennants thing
who knows
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 10:53, archived)
# I have a sad need to know
Moffat needs to get some stone and start setting things in it
(I helped save b3ta! ferret -> twitter.com/syfyautocorrect <-, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 10:57, archived)
# oh yeah, just read a thing, completely forgot (as is the way with this constantly made up guff)
When Smith keeled over it was some nonsense about asking for help from the time lords so they granted him an extra regeneration, or maybe a new 12

So..... maybe they're now counting backwards - Smith is 13 and then Capaldi IS 12
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 11:28, archived)
# countdown!
In 50 years we'll get to see the last Doctor implode into nothing
(I helped save b3ta! ferret -> twitter.com/syfyautocorrect <-, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 12:15, archived)
# I like Neil Gaiman's response to that
www.bleedingcool.com/2013/11/28/neil-gaiman-comments-on-the-doctor-who-numbering/

edit: and woo to the pic, btw!
(I helped save b3ta! monkeon schmonkeon, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 12:42, archived)
# ta!
I agree we shouldn't re-number anyone, just skip 12 and have Capaldi as 13. John Hurt was the 12th actor to play a specific and unique incarnation of the Doctor, just shown out of order.

Matt Smith's Doctor specifically referred to himself as 11 a few times (before the re-evaluation of John Hurt) so it should be senseless to go back and re-number even from a crazed fan perspective.
(I helped save b3ta! ferret -> twitter.com/syfyautocorrect <-, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 13:07, archived)
#
"we all know who we mean when we say Doctors NIne, Ten or Eleven. If anyone corrects you and says “You mean TWELFTH!” when you say “Matt Smith was the eleventh Doctor” then that person is being irritatingly pedantic"

No, he's pointing out that it's an appallingly rewritten tv show and that we don't all know who he means by 9, 10, 11 etc

Having just read an interview with Moffat he doesn't know who you mean when you say Doctors Nine, Ten or Eleven as he says they've never been numbered. What a load of twats :D
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 13:07, archived)
# Peter Cushing is number
2.1
(I helped save b3ta! monkeon schmonkeon, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 15:40, archived)