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[challenge entry] i love b3ta and all.. but

cfb.

From the Rebrand America challenge. See all 280 entries (closed)

(toasty, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 16:48, archived)
# Yeah...
...because tarring all the compo entries with the same Anti-American brush isn't at all like us calling all Americans gun-crazed ignorant warmongering xenophobes at all.

Here's my compo entry, ok it might be banal, it probably isn't very funny, but where's the anti-Americanism?



I'm seriously getting annoyed with people being twats, on both sides of this argument. There's an ignore button for a reason, someone's opinion offends you, click that button. Or respond reasonably.

Rant over, sorry folks.
(Sartori is moving to Canada, eh?, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 16:51, archived)
# *hugs*
it's ok - it'll be over soon enough...
(I helped save b3ta! TopUpTheTea you ain't seen me, right?, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 16:54, archived)
# I know
I'm just in a ranty mood at the moment, especially about unfluffey people being mean to one another. No need for it!

*hugs back*
(Sartori is moving to Canada, eh?, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 16:55, archived)
# no need at all!
but it's a bit fun sometimes - and you can't get punched on here!
(I helped save b3ta! TopUpTheTea you ain't seen me, right?, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:01, archived)
# this'll cheer you up! Meet Tarquin.
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(I helped save b3ta! Zaphod's Wombat - Never did quite get the hang of, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:04, archived)
# KILL IT!
(Gen Graie Wherever you are, whatever you do,LOOK AROUND YOU, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:11, archived)
# The expression
on that face is how I feel today. Three cheers for Tarquin ;)
(Sartori is moving to Canada, eh?, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:22, archived)
# They should all go back home ...
etc.

I agree with your comment. I got called an anti-american for posting a picture of Cristopher Walken as president.

I just think the guy has a fantastic voice. [And is a great actor]
I keep hearing My fellow Americans in his gravelly voice in my head...
He would be cool as President.
[I was dissapointed by the fact his race is a hoax :-(]

It had absolutely nothing to do with my anti-americanism.
(I helped save b3ta! coder.keitaro I like pies!, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 16:57, archived)
# haha
Two completely unrelated ideas, huh?

I think he would be a great president for a month. Perhaps the next administration can institute guest presidencies or something.

*nominates Gilbert Godfried*
(ZugZwang refuses to update his profile., Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:01, archived)
# Oh dear,
someone proposed me for president earlier today; you don't think I'm going to get beaten up once the night shift starts to arrive, do you?

*quakes*
(I helped save b3ta! Ptolemy the man with the silent pea, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:15, archived)
# *seconded*
maple syrup
(stone the crows, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:18, archived)
# Exactly!
I get told I'm a racist because I post a picture that includes a burning US flag. Never mind that this is an action is one performed by Americans themselves or that this is an act that even patriots will defend and fuck the fact I've got relatives from Kentucky and Manhatan and that my current romantic interest comes from Utah, I'm a racist because I posted that picture without even stating an opinion or anything about Americans themselves.
(Guineapiggy Fuzzeh!, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:16, archived)
# your
entry is lovely actually.

What's unreasonable about my response? I thought, rather than responding to each individual entry which I found not even related to the compo (which, for the most part, has managed to turn into a free for all bash) that I would put something up everyone would see at once.

I'm sorry I'm annoying, I just felt like I needed to do something larger than posting "hey! america is ok sometimes!" to most of the entries in the compo itself.
(toasty, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 16:58, archived)
# This is what happens when you let people vote for the challenge.
Ban democracy and give the challenge dictator full powers. That's my motto.
(I helped save b3ta! Mystery_Bob, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:00, archived)
# what's a motto with you?

*runs*
(I helped save b3ta! gravytrain, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:01, archived)
# hey well..
reacting is wrong, so I'll just go back into my lurk closet now.
(toasty, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:06, archived)
# alas
At least you odn't use big phrases that wrap awkwardly in the front page competition box, like
"international image" "corporate rebranding". Too big. Looks crap!
(I helped save b3ta! drunkenoaf, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:18, archived)
# hmmm
there's a legitimate argument that all patriotism is a post-tribal form of racism.

American or otherwise.

i suspect many people here have no problem with Americans, bar their lack of awareness of foreign policy - 31 democratic nation states toppled in 30 years, anyone? Americans are lovely people, but the majority must fail to see how they are electing leaders who put business about their own people, and the economic interests of their own people above the lives of foreigners?

It's a problem that's endemic to the west (British posters here will probably realise that the US took it's lead from the behaviour of Britain throughout the early 20th C), but these days the US is seen as both thte worst offender, and the one with the big stick as it were, keeping the more flexible nations in line.
(I helped save b3ta! WhoElse I'm what Willis was talking about, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:10, archived)
# you are wikipedia
AICMFP
(I helped save b3ta! Sexy Picard 2000, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:13, archived)
# Error 404
The page cannot be displayed
The page you are looking for is currently unavailable. The Web site might be experiencing technical difficulties, or you may need to adjust your browser settings.
(I helped save b3ta! WhoElse I'm what Willis was talking about, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:16, archived)
# democracies get the government they deserve

(I helped save b3ta! gravytrain, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:14, archived)
# I suggest a move toward oligarchy
the criminally-underused form of government.

(unless you count the US, of course)
(I helped save b3ta! Sexy Picard 2000, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:16, archived)
# I couldn't have put it better
I favour no nation over any other and feel that other than those who follow the stereotypes layed out for them there is no defining behaviour, ideal, name based on what piece of rock they just happened to have been ejaculated out on to. Do you want a medal for being from whateverland?
(Guineapiggy Fuzzeh!, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:19, archived)
# what did Bill Hicks say?
Yeah, this country is great - cos my parents had SEX HERE - YeeHAAAAAW!

pretty much sums it up
(I helped save b3ta! WhoElse I'm what Willis was talking about, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:22, archived)
# Hahaha, that's rather wonderful
(Guineapiggy Fuzzeh!, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:22, archived)
# about that
"..who put business about their own people, and the economic interests of their own people above the lives of foreigners"

That is a very articulate way to put it (the entire post), and I agree with you. I am totally frustrated wholly with how things are in the country.

Now that, coupled with the compo entries that makes it seem like everyone hates us, it just makes me angry all over the place. Sorry about being unfluffy, everyone.

(toasty, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:20, archived)
# Yay!
Cheery kittin! :D
(Sartori is moving to Canada, eh?, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:21, archived)
# Dear god that's fluffeh
*melts*
(Guineapiggy Fuzzeh!, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:23, archived)
# Not at all
while there are problems in the US (poverty, criminal system, uber-capitalism), there are problems pretty much everywhere. You're a big country with more clout than any country bar quiet scary old China (to whom you owe a farcical amount of money and even Bush backed down from). Cosequently, you draw more flak than the smaller nation states. If Europe does eventually go Federal, it will probably see similar abuse!

The main thing, in my experience, is that most americans are decent well meaning people who either fail to see or are mislead on what their leaders do - and with a big big country it's not entirely your fault for being inward looking - there's so much going on at home it's hard to look next door.

Forgive my awkward phrasing - i tend to still use very critical terms, but again this reflects my views on your government (mix of logic and by this point prejudice) but NOT on americans. i lived in NH for 6 months and had a ball. Blew up a car enging, sunk two canoes, had guns pointed at me - it was a blast!
(I helped save b3ta! WhoElse I'm what Willis was talking about, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:27, archived)
# Sounds like family fun without the urine
(Guineapiggy Fuzzeh!, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:30, archived)
# : )
well.. that does make me feel a bit better.
(toasty, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 20:09, archived)
# Sorry chief/chiefess
:(

And it's not specifically your piccy, sorry if I gave that impression. It's the whole atmosphere on the board at the minute. Between the anti-American thing, and the racism thing, and the homophobic thing, I'm just sad that people can't have a place where none of that is an issue :(
(Sartori is moving to Canada, eh?, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:19, archived)
# Trust me, the best way to beat it is to ignore it
Best saying anyone ever taught me as far as this goes is that if you turn the TV off the world becomes a much nicer place.
(Guineapiggy Fuzzeh!, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:20, archived)
# or
don't take things so seriously.

On either side.
(I helped save b3ta! Sexy Picard 2000, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 16:59, archived)
# haha remember this used to happen all the time?
rob or bob would deliberately pick a possibly downright offensive competition and all hell would break loose

ahh great days
(I helped save b3ta! Reckless_Rik, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:01, archived)
# let's go back to 'photoshop this cat'
Problem solved. :-)
(I helped save b3ta! Sexy Picard 2000, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:04, archived)
# some smart arse will lens flare it and win
(I helped save b3ta! Reckless_Rik, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:09, archived)
# Mmm......
filters.
(JPaddy, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:15, archived)
# Why the *%&! is everyone on here so anti dog?
It's cat this kittin that etc..
(I helped save b3ta! wefbhweiufhweiu party, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:12, archived)
# dogs smell when wet
cats don`t

hence cats!
(I helped save b3ta! Reckless_Rik, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:14, archived)
# dogs are not
as fluffy
(miniuzi, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:14, archived)
# I prefer baby pygmy goats to everything
They are best and therefore win. FACT
(I helped save b3ta! wefbhweiufhweiu party, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:16, archived)
# post an anti-anti-dog pic
We'll fight about it all day.
(I helped save b3ta! Sexy Picard 2000, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:19, archived)
# Because they are inferior specimins compared to Guineapigs
(Guineapiggy Fuzzeh!, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:26, archived)
# hmm
/searches for an Ignore_All button...
(haberman is singing in the changes, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 16:59, archived)
# Yay for american kittens
(miniuzi, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:09, archived)
# aaaawwwwww.... teh fluff
Fluffy dollar
(I helped save b3ta! Bananiel, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:14, archived)
# Neato.
(I helped save b3ta! mr horrible up yours, dickface, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 16:51, archived)
# i've not really noticed much anti-american humour
there's a bit of anti-bush and anti-globalisation stuff, but we do that every day anyway.

edit: oh, and anti-iraq war. i'm just going through the archives now
(I helped save b3ta! spacefish bong!, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:05, archived)
# verdict:
FEZ FOR ALL!
(I helped save b3ta! spacefish bong!, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:13, archived)
# how you manage to transpose "h" and "z" every time amazes me
;)

edit: sneaky sneakster
(I helped save b3ta! Reckless_Rik, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:15, archived)
# better?
(I helped save b3ta! spacefish bong!, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:22, archived)
# I agree with this verdict
Court adjourned.
(I helped save b3ta! Sexy Picard 2000, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 17:15, archived)
# Stop your whining. :)
The ultimate superpower in the universe should
be able to take some hummus flak without crying.
(Curt Sibling, Thu 22 Sep 2005, 18:28, archived)