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This is a link post You'll all be please to know MI5's most wanted has now been caught.
I'm off for a run to celebrate and push a few people in the canal.
 (I helped save b3ta! Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Thu 10 Aug 2017, 17:58, , Reply)
This is a normal post I think they should have charged him with attempted murder.

(I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Thu 10 Aug 2017, 18:09, , Reply)
This is a normal post This.
Fucking idiot.
 (Huw Edwards #notalljews, Thu 10 Aug 2017, 18:15, , Reply)
This is a normal post Wouldn't you then need to prove he intended to kill her?

(I helped save b3ta! Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Thu 10 Aug 2017, 18:30, , Reply)
This is a normal post Well yes.
Mens rea would be tough/impossible to prove. If such a charge as attempted manslaughter existed (it does not, for perfectly logical reasons, the very idea is absurd in fact) that would sort of fit. I think in the USA something like reckless endangerment of life exists in some states. I just don't think GBH is adequate. It's a fudge. Her injuries I imagine only qualify for ABH.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Thu 10 Aug 2017, 18:47, , Reply)
This is a normal post Men's rear?

(I helped save b3ta! Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Thu 10 Aug 2017, 18:51, , Reply)
This is a normal post To be convicted of murder two things need to be proven beyond all reasonable doubt.
Actus rea. Easy. Is the victim dead and did an action of the defendant directly cause the death?
Mens rea. Harder. Did the defendant intend to kill them?
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Thu 10 Aug 2017, 18:59, , Reply)
This is a normal post Anyway that's all irrelevant.
I forget what needs to be proven in a charge of attempted murder. Something along the lines of he tried to kill her is my best guess.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Thu 10 Aug 2017, 19:16, , Reply)
This is a normal post several nuances to the whole attempted murder thing...
Firstly, to go for murder, you have to show the intent to want to kill - usually with pre-planning. Secondly, for the 'attempt' there has to be an act 'more than merely preparatory' to show they were about to carry it out.
I think, in this case, a court would struggle with both aspects - he's just a fucking dick!
 (I helped save b3ta! Another_tragic_case wished he hadn't eaten all the cake, Fri 11 Aug 2017, 7:37, , Reply)
This is a normal post Indeed
No GBH/ABH as he didn't really injure her, however he did endanger her life. Even if he did not intend to seriously injure her, he did intend to push her out of the way, and did so with no further regard to her safety. This is not what a reasonable person would do. Therefore I'd say reckless endangerment:


"acts that create a substantial risk of serious physical injury to another person. The accused person isn't required to intend the resulting or potential harm, but must have acted in a way that showed a disregard for the foreseeable consequences of the actions".

The guy's a cunt, by the way.
 (I helped save b3ta! Turquoise Hexagon Sun has just dropped acid on, Thu 10 Aug 2017, 21:56, , Reply)
This is a normal post Or common assault
And yes the twunt is a bellend.
 (I helped save b3ta! DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Fri 11 Aug 2017, 9:48, , Reply)
This is a normal post He didn't attempt to murder anyone
He's a massive antisocial dick though and should be given the max possible sentence for that.

Charging him with GBH is the most extreme they can do and might be a problem because she wasn't really harmed - If he's got a good lawyer they might have problems making this stick (although I hope not). It was not sustained assault, it was one strike. If you look up common assault, it's literally exactly what's happened here:
https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/item/common-assault/2-common-assault/

Don't get me wrong, I think anyone that jogs should be locked up for the safety of the community at large but attempted murder? Nope.
 (I helped save b3ta! DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Fri 11 Aug 2017, 9:47, , Reply)
This is a normal post I don't get the GBH thing
The news said the woman suffered only minor injuries (so why GBH?) but if you ask me pushing someone under a bus ought to be classed as attempted murder.
 (I helped save b3ta! jonbob loves you, Thu 10 Aug 2017, 18:26, , Reply)
This is a normal post He clearly didn't see the bus though.
He was pushing her out of his way without any thought of the consequences, he wasn't specifically trying to kill or injure her.

Imagine the bus wasn't there at all; she didn't actually get hit by it and the guy wasn't aware of it, so in essence it is irrelevant to the case. Now you've just got a guy pushing a woman over for no reason.
 (eViLegion Chief Commissioner of the Scottish Lunacy Board, Thu 10 Aug 2017, 20:02, , Reply)
This is a normal post Pushing a woman over.... into the road.
In that London, I think it is safe to assume that something would be on the road.
 (I helped save b3ta! MyFrontFellOff ; his mouth full of teddies, urinating defiantly, Thu 10 Aug 2017, 22:58, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yeah, like the bus he'd just run past!

(I helped save b3ta! jonbob loves you, Fri 11 Aug 2017, 11:57, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yes, but what I want to know is
Which car does he drive? Even money, Audi
 (I helped save b3ta! The_cold_stare Coming here only when very, very bored, Thu 10 Aug 2017, 18:51, , Reply)
This is a normal post I just want to hear his justification.

(I helped save b3ta! Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Thu 10 Aug 2017, 20:02, , Reply)
This is a normal post He won't be able to justify it
But his lawyer will no doubt come up with some load of bullshit about him stumbling and putting his arms out, not realising that he has knocked her over and then on the way back not realising she has tried to get his attention because he has headphones on...or something worth £150 an hour anyway
 (I helped save b3ta! The_cold_stare Coming here only when very, very bored, Thu 10 Aug 2017, 20:09, , Reply)
This is a normal post Exactly... it's going to be a belter of an excuse.

(I helped save b3ta! Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Thu 10 Aug 2017, 20:24, , Reply)
This is a normal post Cyclist

(I helped save b3ta! drimble he'd been white, he'd been black, Thu 10 Aug 2017, 21:20, , Reply)
This is a normal post Did she try to trip him up?
I've watched the video in slow motion and just before she gets pushed over, she appears to raise her right leg at him.

Or am I imagining it?
 (penrose your dog's got tits, Thu 10 Aug 2017, 20:47, , Reply)
This is a normal post That's what I wondered when I watched it in slow motion. Hard to make it out.
I've certainly had my fair share of bell ends try to trip me when I'm running. Hilarious.

She doesn't seem to change her line when walking though, where he does.
 (I helped save b3ta! Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Thu 10 Aug 2017, 20:51, , Reply)
This is a normal post I think you are trying really hard to make sense of it
He adjusts his trajectory at her. Her legs don't do anything trippy (like melt as if candles).

Explain what you think you are seeing, and maybe I can pretend to see it too.
 (I helped save b3ta! gaijintendo Regular Member, Fri 11 Aug 2017, 1:02, , Reply)
This is a normal post 5th of May it happened
taken them 3 months to find him - probably jogs there every lunchtime - police cuts - scandalous.
 (I helped save b3ta! buffet_the_appetite_slayer ٩(●̮̃•)۶ jacked in to the ICE on, Thu 10 Aug 2017, 23:18, , Reply)
This is a normal post Wow.
He could have jogged to a non-extradition treaty country in that time.
 (I helped save b3ta! Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Fri 11 Aug 2017, 9:40, , Reply)