serious question
is crime worse, or is the perception of crime become worse? - ie social media increasing awareness.
Recently there seems to have been a spate of breakins in our community. WE live in a nice area, so it comes as a bit of a shock. Articles are shared, people are incensed... CCTV videos shared etc.
But speaking to people over the fence, these incidents arent new, they have happened in the past, in spate.
(, Tue 16 Jan 2018, 10:34, Share, Reply)
I think it's a bit of both
Crime in our area has certainly gone up, but it has always been a burglary hotspot.
What is changed is the amount and nature of youth crime. What used to be low level antisocial behaviour has changed to throwing bricks at tram windows, hurling bottles and glass ash trays at people eating/drinking in bars and restaurants and youth shoplifting has gone through the roof.
One thing that has certainly changed is people's awareness about what the police will and will not bother investigating. Round here, if the amount of goods stolen is less than £200 they don't bother. We had a house on our road broken in to on Halloween. A policeman knocked on my door on the 20th November to ask about it and wondering whether we had any CCTV. A 20 day response time to burglary... is it any wonder no one is ever caught?
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Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Tue 16 Jan 2018, 10:47,
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It's pointless the police catching minor crims until the judges pass proper sentances.
and prisons become places that crims don't want to spend time in.
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CanonCaliber A big bore, Tue 16 Jan 2018, 12:03,
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Because the only purpose of prison is punishment
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wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Tue 16 Jan 2018, 12:26,
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Prison has 4 purposes
1) punish the offender
2) protect the victims from repeat offences
3) try to stop the offender from re-offending after release by rehabilitation
4) deter other people from offending
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CanonCaliber A big bore, Tue 16 Jan 2018, 12:37,
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5. Provide an experimental facility for the trial of new school dinner recipes
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Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Tue 16 Jan 2018, 13:14,
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It's almost as if there're quite strict sentencing guidelines to which judges have to adhere,
and prison doesn't work.
But neither of those can be true, because the world is simple.
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Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Tue 16 Jan 2018, 20:12,
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Absolutely it's worse
I grew up in a nasty council estate in South London, top ranking for almost all indicators of social deprivation. Kids didn't take knives to school. The weaponisation of the yoof is a real difference
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simbosan liked your link on, Tue 16 Jan 2018, 12:04,
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Obviously results will differ by locale.
But I wouldn't say it's any worse these days than it was back when I were a nipper. I remember once in Primary School, a kid showed up one day with a pair of knuckle dusters. Fair enough, that was a one-off but the more aggressive of the school bullies would often take the rubber ballast from traffic cones to school and proceed to use them as a baton to beat fuck out of the weaker children.
Nearby was a school for children with moderate special needs (hearing impaired, mildly retarded, that sort of thing). One of the higher ranking bullies used to set up ambushes at our school gates, so when these poor bastards were walking past on their back from school outings, him and his mates would grab the kids at random and proceed to leather. I have distinct memories of witnessing hearing aids and massively thick lensed glasses being stomped under foot. Bear in mind this was in full view of the teachers accompanying these children who barely had time to react. Fucking animals.
By High School, arseholes of a similar ilk were carrying flick knives on a regular basis. There seemed to be a massive explosion in their popularity around 1995/6 up these parts for some reason. I don't recall anybody ever getting harmed by one. But I suppose that's down to good fortune more than anything else. A kid did get stabbed to death a few years earlier at a nearby High School, though.
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