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This is a link post Is this the right room for an argument?

(, Mon 1 Jun 2009, 14:41, , Reply)
This is a normal post *DOES NOT COMPUTE*
For FUCKS sake, it isn't just "one variable", it just so happens that CO2 is one of the leading greenhouse gasses. That doesn't mean it's the only one - teach cows not to fart and that'll be a serious leg-up too - I just don't see it happening.

Denying that a poulation of over 6billion humans destroying large parts of their natural environment - and atmosphere - won't have any affect on the way this planet works is shortsighted and irrational.
(, Mon 1 Jun 2009, 14:53, , Reply)
This is a normal post agree
There are countless ways humankind are destroying the planet. C)2 and global warming is just one part of it.
(, Mon 1 Jun 2009, 15:10, , Reply)
This is a normal post typical....
all i did was offer an opinion or an idea that differs from the "popular - panic sell idea of the month".
Religion is dead and the powers that be need a new "bogeyman" to keeps us in line.
All hail the system *salutes*
(, Mon 1 Jun 2009, 15:27, , Reply)
This is a normal post I don't think climate change is a flavour of the month panic story
It's been a good few decades now.
If you want a debate, then really /talk is the right room for an argument ;)
(, Mon 1 Jun 2009, 15:41, , Reply)
This is a normal post just posting a link
and now backing away - s l o w l y

:)
(, Mon 1 Jun 2009, 15:45, , Reply)
This is a normal post it's not the panic-sell idea of the month
seeing as it's an issue that's been around for ages now. I don't see how not wanting to destroy the planet is adhering to the system. The system has different ways of causing fear (terrorism laws, war) - this isn't fear, it's common sense, just like climate change does not necessarily mean everywhere gets warmer. Ironically of course, it's the southern hemisphere that gets to experience all the droughts or flashfloods, so we have nothing to worry about in our cosy houses up here.

Even studying a little bit of geography (since, unlike geologists it seems, they actually know something about weather) will show you how some long-established weather patterns are changing or just disappearing.

Also, religion is dead? Have you ever watched the news? There's always at least one thing that is at least related to it...

edit: of course the news is controlled by the powers that be, silly me
(, Mon 1 Jun 2009, 15:50, , Reply)
This is a normal post actually
it is.

By definition.
(, Mon 1 Jun 2009, 15:52, , Reply)
This is a normal post Do NOT say humanity is "Destroying the planet".
You're talking about minor changes to it's outer layer that may or may not render it uninhabitable for human life. Destroying an entire planet is a completely different kettle of fish, and much, much harder than it sounds.

Here, this may help you get some perspective:
qntm.org/?destroy

For reference, Human-induced "Thermageddon" (IE Global warming) has pretty much been debunked now. Just thought you might like to know.
(, Mon 1 Jun 2009, 18:34, , Reply)
This is a normal post Vaclav Klaus is an utter fucking cunt.
By the way.
(, Mon 1 Jun 2009, 17:06, , Reply)
This is a normal post what system?
I think I speak for most people here when I say the System is frigged adn needs to change.

There is too much evidence about global warming and everything else to make ignoring it sound very silly.

I'm pretty sure there's alot of info out there about the buiness's that pay for the research and the amount of damage that they do to the planet.

Our world is amazingly strong and delicate at the same time. Humans have caused the most damage and changes to the enviroment over all other living things on this planet. If we don't find ways to help our planet live then we're going to reap the consequences.
(, Mon 1 Jun 2009, 17:15, , Reply)
This is a normal post The sum total of human effect on Earth's ecosystem
is infinitesimal compared to the Sun, and negligable to just about any other force or influence, from within or without the planet. To think we as a species have done anything more than create a minor ripple in a very large pond is the height of arrogance. A trait which, I'm sad to say, seems endemic to Humanity.
(, Mon 1 Jun 2009, 18:42, , Reply)
This is a normal post The Earth will survive, of course,
but we can easily change the climate enough to make the place uninhabitable for ourselves. The planet would recover of course, but it could be after humans die out.
(, Mon 1 Jun 2009, 18:47, , Reply)
This is a normal post Stopping cows from farting wouldn't make a blind bit of difference...
Notably because pretty much all the methane they generate comes out of their mouths. If you're gonna dive headlong into a ranty argument, at least get the basic facts straight, eh? :)
(, Mon 1 Jun 2009, 16:27, , Reply)
This is a normal post He may be totally right, the climate changes don't fall outside the range of natural variability.
Just as if I steal £10,000 of his money, his bank account doesn't fall outside the range of natural variability.
(, Mon 1 Jun 2009, 15:18, , Reply)
This is a normal post These "issues" are all answered more-than-comprehensively here:
www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php
(, Mon 1 Jun 2009, 17:32, , Reply)