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We love books. Tell us about your favourite books and authors, and why they are so good. And while you're at it - having dined out for years on the time I threw Dan Brown out of a train window - tell us who to avoid.

(, Thu 5 Jan 2012, 13:40)
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I can't be arsed to read every post on here but-
it strikes me that whenever someone says, "I don't have a problem with what Dawkins says, it's just that I find him really arrogant!", that actually, they do object to what he says (a lot) but just can't think of a convincing counter argument. It doesn't matter how the message is delivered, it is the content that is important. In fact, by focusing on the way the message is delivered rather than on what he is saying, you are basically admitting you have lost the argument.
(, Sun 8 Jan 2012, 23:23, 4 replies)
Since I've already lost the argument, you won't read anything beyond this line,
but I'm not convinced that any real progress will be achieved by a privileged white Englishman who insists on fighting fire with fire.

And people's behaviour is important. Do you think Martin Luther King would now be remembered for his constructive contribution to the civil rights movement if he'd gone around throwing wobblers and being completely unable to hold a civil conversation with anyone who held views that conflicted with his own?
(, Mon 9 Jan 2012, 0:03, closed)
Your right
The colour of his skin, nationality and education completely undermine his arguments.
(, Mon 9 Jan 2012, 6:27, closed)
you're

(, Mon 9 Jan 2012, 15:50, closed)
Yeah
I noticed that just before I posted the message. I was about to correct it, then I thoutght about the kind of people who get upset at that sort of thing.
(, Mon 9 Jan 2012, 18:35, closed)
Link to Dawkins "throwing wobblers" please?
Link to Dawkins being "completely unable to have a civil conversation with anyone who held views that conflicted with his own"?

For example, I watched this new video on youtube this morning:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqqoViVXf-c
He seems entirely civil to me...also, it's a curious kind of Englishman who was born in Nairobi
(, Mon 9 Jan 2012, 16:13, closed)
Just because you've got a video of Dawkins
not throwing a wobbler, doesn't mean he never does it. Only a person of blind faith could make such an assertion.
Which is why my cult will always be at war with your kind, as our holy book has fortold of a day when he will throw a massive wobbler. Then, and only then, can peace be brought unto the earth.
(, Mon 9 Jan 2012, 19:09, closed)
^ this ^

(, Mon 9 Jan 2012, 9:49, closed)
I can't be arsed either
so I'll avoid commenting.
(, Mon 9 Jan 2012, 10:46, closed)
I agree with almost everything he says.
And I think he's a bit arrogant and pushy.

I did enjoy the Blind Watchmaker though - all that stuff about how the eye evolved, and was useful all the way through in particular. I guess my objection to all the fervour is that the majority of religious people in the UK, and the world, are infinitely more likely to organise a coffee morning than the mass slaughter of unbelievers, and I don't mind a coffee morning. And I don't believe that the slaughter of unbelievers, when it happens, has much to do with the existence or otherwise of God.
(, Mon 9 Jan 2012, 12:29, closed)

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