1) You're a chick?
2) I fucking love apple products, my 3 year old laptop is still worth more than half of what I paid for it, and it can run anything that I've wanted to run on it, very quickly. They always use the highest grade proccessors available at the time, but I admit that it's a fucking joke how much the 'extras' are, £160 to go from 4gb ram to 8gb is rediculous.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 17 May 2012, 16:36, 3 replies, latest was 12 years ago)

What on Earth are you going to be doing on a laptop
that requires 8gb of RAM?
( Kroney, Thu 17 May 2012, 16:40, Reply)

Not sure you want to know.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 17 May 2012, 16:41, Reply)

He probably does the sick, French bastard.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 17 May 2012, 16:43, Reply)

The dirty cochon.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 17 May 2012, 16:55, Reply)

That's exactly what Apple think too, which is why its an extra option rather than default.
I've got my dev stuff that uses a good lot of that, lots of tabs and windows open with media-rich websites and lots of documentation.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 17 May 2012, 16:47, Reply)

Yeah, but 8 gig's worth?
It wasn't so long ago that was a server level amount.
( Kroney, Thu 17 May 2012, 16:50, Reply)

I've normally got around 1.5g free, but it's always better to pair up the ram chips, so 6gb wouldn't really be that efficient.
Most of it goes in Firefox even though Chrome is my main browser.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 17 May 2012, 16:52, Reply)

I was going to use this argument
but it's a personal experience thing, innit? I just think it's idiotic to argue that macs break, because you're basically suggesting therefore that PCs don't.

I have a macbook pro that runs at exactly the same speed now as it did 5 years ago. Fucking try that with a PC laptop.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 17 May 2012, 16:49, Reply)

Yeah, but you know why that is
All the targetted malware on the internet is targetted at Windows. If IOS was anywhere near as targetted, you'd have exactly the same problems, probably compounded by the lack of third party removal products.
( Kroney, Thu 17 May 2012, 16:51, Reply)

*cough* iOS is mobile, OSX is desktop *cough*
I think Win8 will really kill off most malware, because every app would be sandboxed. MS are moving towards Apple's pholosophy by having a closed eccosystem, which has the pay-off of having to play by MS's rules.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 17 May 2012, 16:55, Reply)

This is interesting.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 17 May 2012, 16:56, Reply)

thing

(PsychoChomp, Thu 17 May 2012, 16:58, Reply)

Of course.
But you present that like it's a negative point of apples? It'd be like knowing that all red cars get stolen, no blues one do, and then buying a red car and trying to suggest that it being stolen is a good thing.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 17 May 2012, 16:56, Reply)

I don't present it as a negative
more like an irrelevancy. You're comparing one thing to another on completely incomparable terms.

If I were to extend your analogy, it's more like the owner of the red car saying they don't like blue cars because you can't control them yourself. You can't change gears, you can't swap out engine components, all you can do is steer. To which the owner of the blue car retorts with "yeah? well red cars get nicked more often".

Different things.
( Kroney, Thu 17 May 2012, 17:01, Reply)

totally depends what you want them for.
Your points are valid, but only if you want something other than a way of getting from a to b out of a car. The red car might be faster and better handling but if all you do is drive it to the supermarket that's an irrelevancy, the only thing that matters is that it keeps being stolen.

To me, being more or less immune to malware is the single most important thing in a computer (assuming all else is equal, which for everything I do bar lectures, it is, and for presentations and lectures, macs piss on pcs from a great height) because it means I don't have to care or pay attention. And I only have time for either caring about my computer or ranting on here. And I choose you.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 17 May 2012, 17:09, Reply)

Sure, which is fine. I just don't like it when people say one's better than the other.
They aren't. I just prefer to use a PC for much the same reason as I choose manual cars over automatics. I'm not anti-Apple at all, I even have an iPhone, because I just need my smartphone to be a smartphone and the Apple one does it best.
( Kroney, Thu 17 May 2012, 17:13, Reply)

FIGHT FIGHT IT'S AN AFTER SCHOOL GERD FIGHT !!!!!!

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Thu 17 May 2012, 17:15, Reply)

Yeah, us gerds are always scrapping.

( Kroney, Thu 17 May 2012, 17:16, Reply)

You bust a move by comparing processor speeds and red dwarf scripts (AS SIGNED BY THE CAST AND CREW!!!!!)

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Thu 17 May 2012, 17:18, Reply)

I'm running an overclocked Woodbridge and I've got a signed Lister figurine
*spins on head*
( Kroney, Thu 17 May 2012, 17:23, Reply)

is a gerd a gay nerd?

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 17 May 2012, 17:21, Reply)

no, I know, fair play
I run my lab kit on a mix of Unix, PCs and macs depending on what's needed.

it just amazes me how many people will genuinely go "yeah but your mac only runs fine becuase there's no viruses on it" as if that's a bad thing.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 17 May 2012, 17:21, Reply)

What worse about that is that in an intel mac so any in the last 8 years or so
takes the same RAM as a PC laptop which is a fraction of the price, the only difference is you don't buy it from apple. It cost e 20 quid to upgrade my macbook pro to 4gb. Yes I have a macbook pro, its 4 years old and the hardware in it is miles better than the shit they are selling now to cut costs.
( Peej, Thu 17 May 2012, 19:25, Reply)