Any band or producer that changes their sound purely to make money.
Specifically, those that make and sell music that they know is shit. There are bands/ producers that have brought out records that were superb in their context, then subsequently released garbage because it sells.

Pendulum did this- their early work on Ram records etc were superb- Another Planet and Vault got a lot of love in DnB circles- a scene that is notoriously insular and difficult to break into.

Their recent work is terrible, terrible stuff. The irony is, that judging by the quality of their early work, and their clear talent as DnB producers (not to mention El Hornet's skills as a DJ), they must be acutely aware that the sub-emo, nu metal garbage that they churn out now in pursuit of easy money is just terrible. I sincerely doubt that they would listen to it themselves if they didn't make it for their day job.

My ire at this kind of hypocrisy isn't limited to Pendulum (though in their notorious Dogs on Acid meltdown, they described DnB as a moribund, dying genre, then book people like Sub Focus to tour with them, and in their EM last year, played a lot of DnB), though Pendulum are a perfect example of this.

In the interests of balance, Atari Teenage Riot did exactly the opposite. They were signed to a major label, promising to deliver a record that would be akin to a pop punk version of 2 Unlimited, delivered an album of unreleasable hardcore noise and used the advance they received to set up DHR. For that, I salute them, as well as for Destroy 2000 Years of Culture, my second favourite Slayer sampling track of all time.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Sun 2 Jan 2011, 12:18, 5 replies)

Drum and bass has been shit since 1995
/ac
I blame Doc Scott for that godawful Shadow Boxing record, I'm pretty sure that shit lured loads of trendy fucking wankers to Metalheadz at Blue Note to stand around trying to look cool.
Still, I've got Valley Of The Shadows as my ringtone and I'm wearing a Reinforced Records t-shirt, do I win a prize?
( wotofco pissing in your swimming pool, Sun 2 Jan 2011, 12:25, closed)

Yes you do.
I'm not a big DnB head, just using the aforementioned Pendulous as an example of hypocrisy and selling out.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Sun 2 Jan 2011, 12:28, closed)

It happens all the time, though
whether it's pressure from the record company to sound more commercial or the artists moving away from the scene they started out in. Bob Marley is a good example; his records stopped selling in Jamaica pretty much as soon as he started using overdubs of rock style guitar riffs etc. Most reggae fans would call pretty much every track on "Legend" commercial shit.
( wotofco pissing in your swimming pool, Sun 2 Jan 2011, 12:39, closed)

Yeah, but you get the impression that Bob Marley actually would listen to his own music.
Whereas with Pendulum's junglist background, I very much doubt they would rate their own tunes. Changing one's style in itself isn't selling out- Primal Scream, for example, have changed style loads, but never done it to sell records.

I can smell fakery a mile off and it smells of shit.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Sun 2 Jan 2011, 12:43, closed)

Dunno
I always had the impression that a bunch of Australians making D&B records ten years on from when that scene was in any way fresh or relevant were a shower of spasticated shitcunts anyway. Still, fuck em, I'm off to create the first pubstep record. It's gonna be MASSIVE.
( wotofco pissing in your swimming pool, Sun 2 Jan 2011, 12:49, closed)

I'm almost certain
that Pendulum were or were in a metal band before going DnB. I'm prepared to stand corrected on that.

On another note, is your username a musical reference also? If it is, then it is an awesome one.
(ConanTroutman thought we would free the vulture, Sun 2 Jan 2011, 22:25, closed)

Just about every junglist I know started out listening to metal, and still do so.
And every DJ I know is into all sorts of things- but the metal stuff that Pendulum do is terrible. If the stuff that they did was good then I would have no beef with them. As it stands, what they did was stop making very good DnB and start making piss poor nu metal, all the while making out that they have 'grown out of' DnB when they make teenybopper, puerile shite.

It would be funny if it wasn't so tragic.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 3 Jan 2011, 0:12, closed)

Metallist junglists?
What's this fuckery? All the people I used to go raving with at Speed, AWOL, Sunday Roast etc were ex-hip hop heads. Still, I suppose it explains why D&B got heavier and duller after the scene exploded circa 1996. Still, metallist junglists, well I never *lights pipe, shakes head*
( wotofco pissing in your swimming pool, Mon 3 Jan 2011, 9:01, closed)

Maybe it's a Scottish thing.

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 3 Jan 2011, 10:59, closed)

I'd like to know
which tracks you had in mind. Give an example of a good, old Pendulum track and a new, shit one.

I ask because I've recently heard some Pendulum that I like, but don't know enough about them to know which group those tracks belong to...
(moon monkey is busy making memories worth repressing, Tue 4 Jan 2011, 13:38, closed)

Good old ones- Another Planet and Vault.
Shit ones- Granite, Propane Nightmares, The Island.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Tue 4 Jan 2011, 18:38, closed)