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PLEASE FORWARD TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW!!!!!!!!!!
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The Christians have made a stand - but will Athiests?

Below is a transcript of a television billing that is scheduled to be shown on BBC 1 on Sunday 16th January 2005 at 5:15pm (unless we get enough people to complain).

"BBC2 plans to broadcast Songs of Praise on National Nothing Day of all days! This regular musical presentation, notorious for containing the choral presentation of over 25,000 references to the words, 'Christ', 'Lord', 'God' and 'Almighty', depicts the characters of Jesus, Mary and God as infallible beings who give and receive love following a horrific series of events in Jerusalem, all in the name of religion. 12,500 hymns have been sung on Songs Of Praise over the last 40 years. That's over 30 million celebratory references to religious figures that are openly offensive to those who deny their existence. Hymns often include claims that one can live without food or even live forever! The most popular hymn on the programme is called 'How Great Thou Art' - a stark challenge to all atheists! Nevertheless, the show is scheduled to be transmitted without any cuts."

If you disagree with the BBC's plan to broadcast this material, please register your feelings with the BBC info@bbc.co.uk tel 08700 100222) or OfCom (contact@ofcom.org.uk tel 0845 456 3000). Could you also forward this message to anyone else you feel would want to be aware of this. This does make a difference - 500 calls are considered as a very significant complaint, so I am sure we can do this!!!!!!!!! You need to complain to both OfCom and the BBC.

The following URL is a direct link to the Ofcom website - and to register a complaint online. Please make use of this:
www.ofcom.org.uk/contact_ofcom/tv_radio_other

Please forward this message to as many people as possible, because time is of the essence as the 16th Jan gets nearer!

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[edit] - I am greatly alarmed by the number of people taking this seriously...
(I helped save b3ta! Manic can teach you the secret of fire, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:31, archived)
what if you dont care?

(DaBear - Most eligible B3ta bachelor Most eligible B3ta bachelor, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:32, archived)
then
we put a brick through your window
(I helped save b3ta! Manic can teach you the secret of fire, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:32, archived)
Try.
Ladyboy.

/itching for a fight :P
(DaBear - Most eligible B3ta bachelor Most eligible B3ta bachelor, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:33, archived)
Do you have battle fleas?

(FluffehNinja, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:38, archived)
Yes, Yes i do.
Even now they are crawling inexorably closer to you.....START ITCHING NOW! bwhahahahah


*Huggles*
(DaBear - Most eligible B3ta bachelor Most eligible B3ta bachelor, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:39, archived)
Your battle fleas are no match for my GIANT KILLER BODY LICE!
Rawr!


*Huggles back*
(FluffehNinja, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:41, archived)
hehehehe

(DaBear - Most eligible B3ta bachelor Most eligible B3ta bachelor, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:42, archived)
That is *so*
four days ago.
(I helped save b3ta! Newington, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:32, archived)
Atheists are ok
But atheists who try and destroy other people's faith's and ruin their happyness are total wankers. Fuck off.
(Willboy:, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:33, archived)
Fucking hurrah!
Seconded!
(DaBear - Most eligible B3ta bachelor Most eligible B3ta bachelor, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:34, archived)
bollocks
that is like saying "Christians are OK but Christians who go around promoting their faith are wankers"

Just because you are credulous enough to believe this beardy fairy bollocks is no reason I shouldn't feel smug about having a functioning brain.
(I helped save b3ta! Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:38, archived)
'ded

(qdamik, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:39, archived)
Because only people of your vast inteligence
Can realise that there is no God. And be absolutely, 100,000% certain of this fact, because, for Crying out loud, you've gone through further education, and the rest of these proles are dumb.
(Willboy:, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:43, archived)
it has nothing to do with higher education.
it's called logic. take a minute or 2 to just think about the whole situation and think about it with even one iota of reasoning.
(I helped save b3ta! rawr isn't really here., Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:47, archived)
oooh, a debate on religion
*grabs popcorn*
(1, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:49, archived)
Ah yes. 2 minutes later
I have solved the greatest question ever posed to man. Thankyou for your tutorship, master. I go now in peace.
(Willboy:, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:50, archived)
you solved the caramilk secret?

(I helped save b3ta! rawr isn't really here., Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:51, archived)
the point is
it isn't the greatest question ever posed to man
it isn't even a good question
it isn't even a question that makes sense

it only becomes an interesting question if you accept that the answer is "god exists" ... if you don't accept that answer then it is about as meaningful as "what colour is the teapot that orbits mars?"
(I helped save b3ta! Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:53, archived)
Well, it doesn't take more than two minutes or require any intelligence
to see that religious questions do not, and are not expected to, obey ordinary logic.

I appreciate that the question of whether you want to be religious entails more than this, but it should be easy to see it's a personal choice and you're not going to go to hell* if you don't take it. Then you have to ask yourself whether it's a good idea to start giving up logical thinking, and why it shouldn't apply to a certain class of question.

* the most insulting concept imaginable
(I helped save b3ta! Newington, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:54, archived)
A silly argument.
How does "You can't be certain there is no god" extrapolate to "you should follow Religion X"?

Whether there is a god or not is not the question. It's not even a question, since it's not expected by anyone to stand up to ordinary logic. That's why I reject religion.

That and that if you're not a fundamentalist, you don't really need it; you're just helping to make something socially acceptable which has resulted, when it's taken to extremes*, in unspeakable oppression and suffering all over the world throughout all human history.

*wipes off foam*

* i.e. actually practised as the holy books seem to demand
(I helped save b3ta! Newington, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:48, archived)
Ok
I get your point.

I deal with some of them on a daily basis. Of course this is my interpretation, they could be what Jung called archetypes, or theycould be hallucinations. They could also be parts of my own personality that I see as seperate individuals.

I dont say I am right, and everyone else is wrong. It's just a personal observation.

I was told by an Anglican Vicar that 'we couldn't both be right'. I agreed, but did mention that it was entirely possible we could both be wrong...

Edit - and I don't see it as a religion. It's just natural to me, is all.
(I helped save b3ta! Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:52, archived)
I'd say "you don't harm anyone so I don't mind"
but after what I said up there, that'd be hypocrisy.
I do think you're wrong. But I do think it's absolutely fundamentally important that you're allowed to be religious (or whatever you call it) if you want.

I've also met you and, like a number of theists I know, you're not stupid, so there may well be something else I'm missing.
(I helped save b3ta! Newington, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:59, archived)
yes ... that's exactly what I said
only with all the words, the context, the subtext and every shred of meaning changed
(I helped save b3ta! Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:51, archived)
If I thought for a second
this was in any way serious I would still not bother.

I'm not about to turn into a Pagan Fundie, just to attack some Xtians.

They do it to us, fair enough, but I'm not sinking that low.
(I helped save b3ta! Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:34, archived)
Fair as always :)
*Huggles*
(DaBear - Most eligible B3ta bachelor Most eligible B3ta bachelor, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:35, archived)
not all Pagans
are athiests, you know
(I helped save b3ta! Manic can teach you the secret of fire, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:37, archived)
I think that
as a 'Wiccan Witch' she probably knows that already.
(I helped save b3ta! baldmonkey a frothy foul-smelling vaginal discharge, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:38, archived)
*coughs*
I'm not Wiccan, but 'traditional-ecclectic-heathenish-solitary-with wiccan influences witch from manchester' just doesn't have the same ring to it ;)
(I helped save b3ta! Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:45, archived)
FFS.
I won't bother in future.

;0)
(I helped save b3ta! baldmonkey a frothy foul-smelling vaginal discharge, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:48, archived)
If you met some of the American
Wiccans I have seen, you would know why I am distancing myself ;)
(I helped save b3ta! Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:49, archived)
No, I never said we were
I'm not atheist as it happens, am on speaking terms with a few of 'them', it would be rude to pretend they don't exist.

I don't go round believing in them though. That only encourages them, and as I have said before it's pointless, like believing in the postman*



*directly lifted from Witches Abroad.
(I helped save b3ta! Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:43, archived)
I disagree with everything everyone says in relation to this post.
I also disagree with the original post.
I also disagree with this response.
(I helped save b3ta! baldmonkey a frothy foul-smelling vaginal discharge, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:35, archived)
i disagree.

(DaBear - Most eligible B3ta bachelor Most eligible B3ta bachelor, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:36, archived)
I double disagree
with cherries on top.
(I helped save b3ta! baldmonkey a frothy foul-smelling vaginal discharge, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:37, archived)
*blows raspberry*
(sounds kinky :P)
(DaBear - Most eligible B3ta bachelor Most eligible B3ta bachelor, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:38, archived)
I don't agree.

(I helped save b3ta! baldmonkey a frothy foul-smelling vaginal discharge, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:39, archived)

www.b3ta.com/talk/264493
(DaBear - Most eligible B3ta bachelor Most eligible B3ta bachelor, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:40, archived)
I agree.









and so forth
(I helped save b3ta! baldmonkey a frothy foul-smelling vaginal discharge, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:41, archived)
*sighs*
Honestly, what is the harm in it all? They are mostly good people who try and live a life of a decent moral standard & help others.
(I helped save b3ta! Benny on the Loose; a permanent solution to a temporary problem, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:35, archived)
Exactly.
The real problem here is students. All students should report to the nearest football stadium, where they will be machine-gunned and their remains used as hardcore for a brand new motorway to be built across a nature reserve.
(Willboy:, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:37, archived)
Only the media & drama students.
They can record it all & make a nice arty program out of it.

Sadly we still need engineers, doctors, mathematicians and suchlike.
(I helped save b3ta! Benny on the Loose; a permanent solution to a temporary problem, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:39, archived)
Beg pardon?
What exactly are students are supposed to have done?
(I helped save b3ta! Nimble Colin camera-wrangling, globe-trotting whisky enthusiast, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:39, archived)
Shut up and get in the truck
*prods with rifle*
(Willboy:, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:40, archived)
Hey hey hey, woah.
Im on a placement and have an actual job for now. You can shoot me in September, right now im working against them, not for them.
(I helped save b3ta! Nimble Colin camera-wrangling, globe-trotting whisky enthusiast, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:42, archived)
They pay £2.00 for pissy lager on a switch card
and ask for £50 cash back, that's what they do.
(I helped save b3ta! Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:41, archived)
I'm not getting into a students are wankers situation.
I set in a sensitive position on this given my current placement and the fact that I am otherwise 'one of them'.
(I helped save b3ta! Nimble Colin camera-wrangling, globe-trotting whisky enthusiast, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:44, archived)
you resent them because
they have more money than you?
(I helped save b3ta! sprinkles ITS AN ISLAND, morron, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:47, archived)
yes
yes I do

Actually was just being sarcky, I was a student once you know.
(I helped save b3ta! Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:48, archived)
they have more fulfilling sex lives
cheaper beer, more money and better prospects than he does

and perter buttocks

and more manageable hair
(I helped save b3ta! Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:43, archived)
Hmmm
I've had a few sanctimonious born agains piss me off.

Having said that though, what other people believe is none of my concer, it is only when someone tries to convert me, or denigrate Pagans as child abusing monsters (oh it happens) I get annoyed. THAT is when I start complaining.
(I helped save b3ta! Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:39, archived)
The Christian Church is all a mish mash
of paganism and other religions. They conveniently forget that when it suits them.
(I helped save b3ta! Benny on the Loose; a permanent solution to a temporary problem, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:41, archived)
Oh they do
same as Gardenarian Wiccans gloss over the influences of Freemasonary and Rosicruician when talking about their 'craft' ;)
(I helped save b3ta! Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:42, archived)
I'll defer to your greater knowledge there.
In my experience all religions seem to get pious about the things that they bought to it and conveniently forget all the bits that they 'acquired' when they 'took over' another.
(I helped save b3ta! Benny on the Loose; a permanent solution to a temporary problem, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:44, archived)
i dont!
/christian, but readily mocks the Vatican, Pope, and basically most of it :P
(DaBear - Most eligible B3ta bachelor Most eligible B3ta bachelor, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:46, archived)
ahhh...well us 'ecclectic' Pagans
are fully aware of what we nick from others ;)

We'd be beaten up if we declared it FACT without at least 25 verified historical sources. Most of the Pagans I know have a good historical research/anthropological background and will call you on it...
(I helped save b3ta! Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:47, archived)
Urrggh!
They're worse than I thought
(I helped save b3ta! homonk, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:39, archived)
Because I want to watch the Jerry Springer Says Fuck Show on TV.
*remembers he doesn't have a tv*
on principle
(I helped save b3ta! Newington, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:40, archived)
That's censorship.
An entirely different kettle of fish.

Can't see what all the fuss with that one is about. You don't like it, don't watch. Not too difficult a concept to grasp.
(I helped save b3ta! Benny on the Loose; a permanent solution to a temporary problem, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:42, archived)
i would
but i'm not even on the same continent
(I helped save b3ta! rawr isn't really here., Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:37, archived)
This reminds me of all those pillocks who put 'Jedi' down on the census
Cnuts. Why bother do this - it may upset some people, while making you all look like plonkers.

*refluffs*
(I helped save b3ta! Dekazer, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:38, archived)
Hahahaha!!!
Nicely put.

*notes down for future arguments*
(I helped save b3ta! Benny on the Loose; a permanent solution to a temporary problem, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:39, archived)
My ex did that
I just put Witch ;)
(I helped save b3ta! Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:40, archived)
which witch put which witch where?

(I helped save b3ta! rawr isn't really here., Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:41, archived)
That was just supposed to be humorous subversion
on a national scale to see if it could be done.
(I helped save b3ta! Nimble Colin camera-wrangling, globe-trotting whisky enthusiast, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:41, archived)
You're only saying that 'cause you did it
*points and laughs*
(I helped save b3ta! Dekazer, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:45, archived)
yes, but you didn't see him do it
*gestures mystically*
(I helped save b3ta! Manic can teach you the secret of fire, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:51, archived)
satire flies over heads of entire b3ta talk board shocker
more news on page 7
(I helped save b3ta! Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:41, archived)
Was just thinking that

(I helped save b3ta! elusive I'm not really here. You're imagining me, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:45, archived)
I suppose
it's a sign of decent satire if it is sufficiently believable and touches enough nerves to cause this kind of knee-jerk ranting
(I helped save b3ta! Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:47, archived)
This is the first time ever
that I've had to insert a this-is-a-joke disclaimer on B3ta. I was so surprised I nipped back and popped another on my site.
(I helped save b3ta! Manic can teach you the secret of fire, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:50, archived)

^
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Fuck off all of you, you ponces! If the thick religious type can do it, so can we
(I helped save b3ta! sprinkles ITS AN ISLAND, morron, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:41, archived)
Thick???????
Cunt.
(DaBear - Most eligible B3ta bachelor Most eligible B3ta bachelor, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:46, archived)
of course they are,
anyone who is stupid enough to believe all that religious tripe is
(I helped save b3ta! sprinkles ITS AN ISLAND, morron, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:52, archived)
I am assuming this post to be satirical, and so am laughing with it.
Not as funny as the person who runs the website which, briefly, featured the names and addresses of BBC management, when interviewed last night: (apologies in advance for paraphrasing)
Christian Fundamentalist: TV is already overun with violence, bad language and blasphemy.
Interviewer: Which programmes in particular do you find blasphemous.
Christian Funadmentalist: Err, well, I don't really watch TV.
(I helped save b3ta! monster munch person, man, woman... camera... TV?, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:42, archived)
snurk

(I helped save b3ta! Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:46, archived)
hahahahahahahahahahaha!
you can read more about this lovely man here:
media.guardian.co.uk/site/story/0,14173,1387536,00.html
(I helped save b3ta! Manic can teach you the secret of fire, Wed 12 Jan 2005, 16:48, archived)