If you're not interested,fine. Don't join in the debate. It doesn't help to dismiss it as boring though, because religious privilege has a direct effect on society. As a current case, take for example the cover-up of child abuse within the Catholic church in which the church is outraged that a secular police force should be allowed to investigate its dirty goings-on.
Do you really think that that's a non-issue?
(Do you really think that that's a non-issue?
wheelybird mreee!,
Thu 19 Aug 2010, 10:10,
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Well said, that wheelybird.
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Crystal Magnet Like a diamond geezer, but better,
Thu 19 Aug 2010, 10:22,
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Gosh.I wonder how many crimes have been covered up by atheists.
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Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Thu 19 Aug 2010, 10:31,
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That entirely misses the point, and perhaps deliberately so.The question should be, how many atheist institutions are allowed by policy and tradition to cover up crimes within their organisation?
No-one ever suggested that atheists don't commit crimes. Why did you suppose that. However, loads of religious people commit crimes, yet their faith somehow makes them morally superior to non-believers. Crazy.
(No-one ever suggested that atheists don't commit crimes. Why did you suppose that. However, loads of religious people commit crimes, yet their faith somehow makes them morally superior to non-believers. Crazy.
wheelybird mreee!,
Thu 19 Aug 2010, 10:37,
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Their faith doesn't make them morally superior - hence the investigation into the Catholic church over child abuse at the mo,and Catholic Care being shot down in court.
I will own that it's a blummin massive institution that covers up and protects it's own when they commit crimes, though.
Like every other blummin massive institution - the police, for example, or the banking industry.
(I will own that it's a blummin massive institution that covers up and protects it's own when they commit crimes, though.
Like every other blummin massive institution - the police, for example, or the banking industry.
Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Thu 19 Aug 2010, 10:42,
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You're missing the point,Atheists don't use the fact of their atheism to insist on special treatment, not having to follow the same rules as everyone else, as in "You can't tell me not to be misogynistic/homophobic/disablist, it's me religion."
( Crystal Magnet Like a diamond geezer, but better,
Thu 19 Aug 2010, 10:38,
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No, I don'tbut this whole debate quickly falls into very predictable lines (on both sides) and no one has anything genuinely insightful to say.
Do you think Catholic priests bugger little boys because they're Catholic priests, or because they're in a position of authority over little boys? Actually don't bother answering that because we'll end up in another bout of name-calling... which is how these discussions always finish, hence my series of "yawns".
(Do you think Catholic priests bugger little boys because they're Catholic priests, or because they're in a position of authority over little boys? Actually don't bother answering that because we'll end up in another bout of name-calling... which is how these discussions always finish, hence my series of "yawns".
Sonic the Hedgetrimmer doesn't care what you think,
Thu 19 Aug 2010, 12:14,
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