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# it would appear that they're done by the same people
(I helped save b3ta! Mighty Nibus who dares gins | @nibus, Fri 7 Jan 2011, 11:04, archived)
# Well now don't I feel silly
(I helped save b3ta! emvee cruor deo cruoris, Fri 7 Jan 2011, 11:10, archived)