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# is he related ? being German and all that
(I helped save b3ta! Dick Wonder ₐ wₒₙₖy, wₐᵥy wₒₙdₑᵣ, Mon 18 Jun 2012, 20:16, archived)
# Smug-Coburg-Gotha
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Mon 18 Jun 2012, 21:04, archived)
# did some research, it appears you're right
(I helped save b3ta! Dick Wonder ₐ wₒₙₖy, wₐᵥy wₒₙdₑᵣ, Mon 18 Jun 2012, 21:58, archived)
# *smug*
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Mon 18 Jun 2012, 22:51, archived)