what a fatuous thing to say. Im probably wasting my breath saying this, as the kind of person who believes such drivel is not the kind open to reason, but here goes:new viruses evolve every year in the corona family in different places and spread around the world. The idea that it's china's fault for not containing a highly virulent virus within its border, assuming it evolved there, is such nonsense. We've seen that countries that were able to contain the virus like Australia needed months of lockdown and other preventative policies to do so, and even then they have the odd one that slip through the net. to stop it from travelling to other countries China would have already had to have been in lockdown (of 1.2 billion people) with mask wearing and good contact tracing in place before the virus even evolved. In reality it took scientists around the world a couple of months to understand the virus's virulence and spreading vectors and health outcomes (that it could be spread by airborne particle was only confirmed several months later), something you can really only determine after a lot of people have been infected, and then formulate an appropriate state response. Why would you expect china to be successful at eliminating a newly discovered virus in a city of 11 million people and a country of a billion people when Britain has had a year and is still disease infested
Some years there's two or three corona variants, most far less contagious and deadly than covid 19. is it your expectation that countries should shut down and close borders for any viruses while they determine it R value and health outcomes? China might have had their own failures and successes in dealing with it, but stop repeating Trumpian nonsense Each country is responsible for its own covid response, and unlike china, Britain had the luxury of seeing how it affected other countries before it arrived on its shores, but still managed to royally fuck it up. Australia took the hard steps in 2020 and put health before the economy and now has zero community transmission and as a consequence its economy is now booming. Britain didn't. Don't blame it on china, that's deflection from incompetence and poor choices and leadership
(Some years there's two or three corona variants, most far less contagious and deadly than covid 19. is it your expectation that countries should shut down and close borders for any viruses while they determine it R value and health outcomes? China might have had their own failures and successes in dealing with it, but stop repeating Trumpian nonsense Each country is responsible for its own covid response, and unlike china, Britain had the luxury of seeing how it affected other countries before it arrived on its shores, but still managed to royally fuck it up. Australia took the hard steps in 2020 and put health before the economy and now has zero community transmission and as a consequence its economy is now booming. Britain didn't. Don't blame it on china, that's deflection from incompetence and poor choices and leadership
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Fri 29 Jan 2021, 0:12,
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That’s the problem these days, you have all the information at your finger tips and yet don’t access any of it. “assuming it evolved there”, no assumption necessary the origin is not in dispute… China. “Why would you expect china to be successful at eliminating a newly discovered virus in a city of 11 million people and a country of a billion people when Britain has had a year and is still disease infested”. Maybe because the UK and other democracies cannot weld the doors shut and completely lock down large areas allowing people to literally die in the streets? “Some years there's two or three corona variants, most far less contagious and deadly than covid 19” Wow. Really? Far less contagious and deadly than covid 19 you say… “unlike china, Britain had the luxury of seeing how it affected other countries before it arrived on its shores, but still managed to royally fuck it up” and yet the death rate is broadly the same in the UK as for all western democracies. “Australia took the hard steps in 2020 and put health before the economy and now has zero community transmission and as a consequence its economy is now booming.” Who gives a fuck about Australia? 25 million people in the middle of nowhere who mine 2 tons of coal per minute for the Chinese?? “Don't blame it on china, that's deflection from incompetence and poor choices and leadership” No one is saying blame China, just don’t you think its odd how little blame is attached given that they did try to hide the outbreak and only let WHO inspectors in a year later… they do have some degree of culpability wouldn’t you agree?
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Fri 29 Jan 2021, 15:07,
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