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# not even
I've seen thousands upon thousands of these characters made in a generator. It takes the skill of a pinecone to make one of these.
(I helped save b3ta! Koogas, Mon 17 Nov 2003, 13:21, archived)
# I have
the skills of a pine cone.

Yet I cannot recreate them...?
(Waisted Fred I say who Sir, you Sir?, Mon 17 Nov 2003, 13:26, archived)