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# fair enough
Personally I find it easier to set myself a challenge and google the bits I don't know how to do.
(I helped save b3ta! rob, Sat 22 Nov 2003, 22:25, archived)
# yep
a good idea but i really need to do some well described (read "for simpletons) tutorials and get a good idea for it first i think

plus i don't have to pay for whatver book i get ;) a great incscscentive.
(I helped save b3ta! dipdapdop, Sat 22 Nov 2003, 22:28, archived)