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# It's a she-devil!
nice, but was it from scratch?
(0800221155 Coldseal windows, Thu 16 Sep 2004, 21:26, archived)
# what do you mean?
(I helped save b3ta! tweaknik, Thu 16 Sep 2004, 21:30, archived)
# He means
did you start from a blank canvas?

Nice job if you did.
Nice job if you didn't.
(tungazzio the occasionally present, Thu 16 Sep 2004, 21:31, archived)
# no, I don't
I meant was he using a picture as reference?

But still great work all the same
(0800221155 Coldseal windows, Thu 16 Sep 2004, 21:32, archived)
# Theres not many artists
that don't use a reference
(I helped save b3ta! fassit is old, Thu 16 Sep 2004, 21:34, archived)
# Yes
but lots of proper ones use live models
(0800221155 Coldseal windows, Thu 16 Sep 2004, 21:35, archived)
# you seem to be saying
that using a reference is a bad thing
(I helped save b3ta! tweaknik, Thu 16 Sep 2004, 21:35, archived)
# well
we already know that you can draw scarily good ones like this
(0800221155 Coldseal windows, Thu 16 Sep 2004, 21:36, archived)