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# isn't that the b3ta motto?
(I helped save b3ta! Haku Orange Whip? Orange Whip? Three Orange Whips., Mon 11 Oct 2004, 18:12, archived)
# no, that's

or www.hulltrains.co.uk
(I helped save b3ta! Gizmo.mp3 does not exist, Mon 11 Oct 2004, 18:14, archived)