I do believe thatillustration (by which I mean the Schrodinger's cat tale) was meant to be flawed, as it was supposed to poke holes in the current quantum theory
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Tue 15 Nov 2005, 3:13,
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I don't like it.I understand the current quantum theory, not this
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abandonnship,
Tue 15 Nov 2005, 3:15,
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Is it if you can't know if it's dead or alive, it's both? abandonnship,
Tue 15 Nov 2005, 3:18,
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i don't think it can actually scale up like thatit's to do with not being able to measure quantum events without changing them. i thin he was taking the piss.
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tweaknik,
Tue 15 Nov 2005, 3:21,
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Right, I understand it was mockingand it's all starting to make sense now...
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Tue 15 Nov 2005, 3:21,
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from en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schrodinger%27s_cat
Contrary to popular belief, Schrödinger did not intend this thought experiment to indicate that he believed that the dead-alive cat would actually exist; rather he considered the quantum mechanical theory to be incomplete and not representative of reality in this case. Since a cat clearly must either be alive or dead (there is no state between alive and dead, e.g. half-dead) surely the same must be true of the nucleus. It must be either decayed or not decayed.
(Contrary to popular belief, Schrödinger did not intend this thought experiment to indicate that he believed that the dead-alive cat would actually exist; rather he considered the quantum mechanical theory to be incomplete and not representative of reality in this case. Since a cat clearly must either be alive or dead (there is no state between alive and dead, e.g. half-dead) surely the same must be true of the nucleus. It must be either decayed or not decayed.
tweaknik,
Tue 15 Nov 2005, 3:25,
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I already haveand it's amazing, if you get what I mean
wink wink, nudge nudge
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abandonnship,
Tue 15 Nov 2005, 3:27,
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The purpose of the experiment is to illustrate that quantum mechanics is incomplete without some rules to describe when the wavefunction collapses and the cat becomes dead or remains alive instead of a mixture of both.yaaaay
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abandonnship,
Tue 15 Nov 2005, 3:26,
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hm,well I have no idea, so I'm kind of talking out of my ass, but wasn't the idea that quantum particles do not exist until observed,and in observing them they are changed, or summat? As such, only until you open the box will the cat's fate be decided. This is silly. and that's the objection.
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Tue 15 Nov 2005, 3:20,
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Like Heisenberg's uncertainty principle?You can either know their velocity or their position but not both... you can't measure one without disturbing the other
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Tue 15 Nov 2005, 3:21,
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