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# Actually
I've lost a stone in three months using them
(I helped save b3ta! gingerbenji wrote a book http://goo.gl/8UiGjd, Fri 10 Jan 2003, 14:16, archived)
# using
the operating table?
(I helped save b3ta! Obz Click, ting, stamps, Fri 10 Jan 2003, 14:17, archived)