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We can?

(Guineapiggy Fuzzeh!, Tue 27 May 2008, 3:24, archived)

Unreliably, yes.

Do you think there's something wrong with calling an idea ridiculous when it appears to you to be ridiculous?

(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Tue 27 May 2008, 3:27, archived)

I think it makes you a tool if you do mostly

there are ideas I don't believe and I'll discuss them and all surrounding reason and issues but I don't think calling someone a liar or a bullshitter for believing something you don't, (say, god, faked moon landings, the illuminati, any of the counter-theories etc. etc.) is big or clever.

(Guineapiggy Fuzzeh!, Tue 27 May 2008, 3:30, archived)

OK.

How about just saying "that doesn't make any sense"?

(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Tue 27 May 2008, 3:34, archived)

As an expressed opinion with a view to continuing discussion

it's perfectly valid

(Guineapiggy Fuzzeh!, Tue 27 May 2008, 3:35, archived)

I believe that's known as heresy

often punishable to varying extremes :)

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discomeats This canoe, Tue 27 May 2008, 3:36, archived)

there is when someone points a gun to your head to remind you the idea isn't ridiculous and it's the only correct idea

as sometimes thinking for oneself is not an available option

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discomeats This canoe, Tue 27 May 2008, 3:30, archived)

Eek.

(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Tue 27 May 2008, 3:35, archived)

yes

I think that's the part I don't like

a new king turns up and has his own religion "my subjects are now [x]" of course all the right minded followers of [y] will be "I can't do that! I will offend my deity[ies] if I do not follow the one true way"

"you will if you want to stay alive"

I suspect more have suffered with forcing one religion over another belief, than have suffered from forcing athiesm

oh my, an opinion without researched factual basis!*

*and unlikely to be proven wrong

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discomeats This canoe, Tue 27 May 2008, 3:43, archived)