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# so very true
(I helped save b3ta! Sheehan forevermore owes Ttssattsr beer, Wed 10 Sep 2008, 1:04, archived)
# if you can't get one
vienetta is a decent substitute
(I helped save b3ta! Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Wed 10 Sep 2008, 1:08, archived)