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# Both really ;)
(I helped save b3ta! Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Wed 12 Nov 2008, 12:56, archived)
# much like werthers originals
the first one is always the best
(I helped save b3ta! Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Wed 12 Nov 2008, 12:59, archived)