I used to work in an IVF lab and have destroyed a cloned zygote of myselfThe concept of genetic clones versus (let's call them experience/choice clones for the sake of this) experience/choice clones is just freudian versus jungian all over again.
It's impossible to create perfect clones because there will never be two genetically identical humans who have experienced the exact same choices and events.
Why does it happen? That's pretty much the same question any discussion boils down to.
(It's impossible to create perfect clones because there will never be two genetically identical humans who have experienced the exact same choices and events.
Why does it happen? That's pretty much the same question any discussion boils down to.
gronkpan @vomitinglarry.bsky.social,
Mon 13 Apr 2009, 8:16,
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It helped me understand religious people.These days I'm a non-practising quaker.
One day soon I might tell the story.
(One day soon I might tell the story.
gronkpan @vomitinglarry.bsky.social,
Mon 13 Apr 2009, 8:23,
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I meanWhen a river happens to meander in one direction rather than another, from a multiverse perspective, both things have happened, producing a nice symmetrical tree-like structure of possibilities over time. When, due to the random action of something, such as rats, a lift loses power and ceases to function, that also has a perfectly reasonable position in the multiverse as one branch on an elegant tree. However, from my point of view, I may find myself stuck in the now broken lift, perhaps with somebody I hate. Yet I know that, in a parallel universe, there is another me who is not stuck. How is that in any way fair? Also, in what sense am I the one who is stuck in the lift, and not the one who isn't? It's all very well observing this retrospectively and saying that I'd better put up with it, but how did I get there? Why can't I have both experiences at once?
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Mon 13 Apr 2009, 8:42,
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Who's to say multiple universes even exist?Fuck them even if they do, there's no point in getting caught up with things you can't control.
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Mon 13 Apr 2009, 8:58,
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We get to laugh at them because a palace hardly buys a loaf of bread in their universe on a 7:10 basis gronkpan @vomitinglarry.bsky.social,
Mon 13 Apr 2009, 9:24,
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also if the direction of a stream was determined by a big rock in the way the resulting two rivers would not necessarily be symmetrical gronkpan @vomitinglarry.bsky.social,
Mon 13 Apr 2009, 9:04,
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Yes, but it would be symmetrical overallif there was an equal chance of a big rock being in the way in a different place. Perhaps there wouldn't be, due to the rock having fallen off a cliff and probably falling in a particular direction, but overall, there would be an equal probability of the cliff being on the opposite side of the river. Or else there wouldn't be, and so on.
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Mon 13 Apr 2009, 9:08,
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what i'm trying to say is that very few big rocks will deflect the water in equal quantities on both sidesso if there's a 60/40 at the top then every 'branch' from there on is affected and there is less and less of a chance that a branch on the outside will eventually reach equilibrium.
( gronkpan @vomitinglarry.bsky.social,
Mon 13 Apr 2009, 9:12,
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Oh, well, right at the top, then yes.If the very first chance that happens anywhere in time is an unequal chance, then, yes. The tree would be all bent.
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Mon 13 Apr 2009, 9:16,
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Now we just need to work out what the odds are of a perfect 50/50 at the first split gronkpan @vomitinglarry.bsky.social,
Mon 13 Apr 2009, 9:19,
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probably the second few splits as well gronkpan @vomitinglarry.bsky.social,
Mon 13 Apr 2009, 9:20,
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like if there was a big mountain nearby with its own waterfall or somethingok I'm not using water as a metaphor anymore
( gronkpan @vomitinglarry.bsky.social,
Mon 13 Apr 2009, 9:22,
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so if we're stuck out on one of these outside branchesdo we cease to exist when the water dries up or do we just stagnate in our shitty puddle of consciousness?
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Mon 13 Apr 2009, 9:17,
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