I disagreeHe did not commit his crime in the US. He's never been to the US.
He did it here.
That figure is an artificially inflated one which conveniently makes it an extraditable offence.
If you have any understanding of what he actually did, you'll know that the damages figure is total bullshit.
They simply want to use him as a scapegoat for some appallingly lax security.
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Thanks for the edit with the armed forces data, but it doesn't have any bearing on the fact that they have deliberately lied about the damages for the purposes of making an example of him.
If you don't believe that then it's you who is naive.
(He did it here.
That figure is an artificially inflated one which conveniently makes it an extraditable offence.
If you have any understanding of what he actually did, you'll know that the damages figure is total bullshit.
They simply want to use him as a scapegoat for some appallingly lax security.
edit :
Thanks for the edit with the armed forces data, but it doesn't have any bearing on the fact that they have deliberately lied about the damages for the purposes of making an example of him.
If you don't believe that then it's you who is naive.
finnbar has officially retired,
Fri 31 Jul 2009, 22:28,
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"He did not commit his crime in the US. He's never been to the US"But he hacked into a computer system physically based in the United States, I am confused as to why you don't grasp this. This seems completely obviously to me.
So therefore he shouldn't be prosecuted for his crimes in the United States, where he committed them? Are you suggesting we don't take cyber crime seriously?
This is a reasonably tight fit; the guy has been caught hacking the most powerful military machine on earth; which has subsequent ramifications for us all, and expects leniency? It's all very cute and naive, but he should have always expected everything thrown at him before he connected to the internet and behaved like a twat, with some obviously dazzling cunning.I never intended to post the above as some justification for what has transpired, but some of your reactions have been incredible
(So therefore he shouldn't be prosecuted for his crimes in the United States, where he committed them? Are you suggesting we don't take cyber crime seriously?
This is a reasonably tight fit; the guy has been caught hacking the most powerful military machine on earth; which has subsequent ramifications for us all, and expects leniency? It's all very cute and naive, but he should have always expected everything thrown at him before he connected to the internet and behaved like a twat, with some obviously dazzling cunning.I never intended to post the above as some justification for what has transpired, but some of your reactions have been incredible
Jahled Three shades of black,
Fri 31 Jul 2009, 22:48,
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I grasp your argument, I just don't agree with it.I'm well aware of where the IT systems are and I don't condone what he did. I am simply of the opinion that his offence was committed here.
Quite frankly, I'm just as surprised by your reaction as you seem to be by mine.
I'm afraid we'll just have to agree to disagree.
(Quite frankly, I'm just as surprised by your reaction as you seem to be by mine.
I'm afraid we'll just have to agree to disagree.
finnbar has officially retired,
Fri 31 Jul 2009, 23:01,
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Moments like this need a good beer garden to iron understandings out ;)Life isn't an abc affair
( Jahled Three shades of black,
Fri 31 Jul 2009, 23:10,
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