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# Well, I always refer to my local Brights group as
'Saint Dawkins Worship.' Although plenty of the membership aren't that fond of him.
(I helped save b3ta! Crystal Magnet Like a diamond geezer, but better, Mon 12 Oct 2009, 20:34, archived)
# Dawkins/Hitchens have both objected to the use of the term 'brights'.
Just so you know.
(I helped save b3ta! PointlessCamel Last one on drugs is a queer., Mon 12 Oct 2009, 20:35, archived)
# Really? when?
He [edit: I mean Dawkins] used to be all for it.
(I helped save b3ta! Crystal Magnet Like a diamond geezer, but better, Mon 12 Oct 2009, 20:40, archived)
# what the fuck are Brights?
(I helped save b3ta! mr horrible up yours, dickface, Mon 12 Oct 2009, 20:41, archived)
#
www.the-brights.net/
(I helped save b3ta! Crystal Magnet Like a diamond geezer, but better, Mon 12 Oct 2009, 20:45, archived)
# what a thoroughly pointless concept
(I helped save b3ta! mr horrible up yours, dickface, Mon 12 Oct 2009, 20:46, archived)
# ^this
(I helped save b3ta! PointlessCamel Last one on drugs is a queer., Mon 12 Oct 2009, 20:48, archived)
# Well, I liked it.
(I helped save b3ta! Crystal Magnet Like a diamond geezer, but better, Mon 12 Oct 2009, 20:49, archived)
# Don't be discouraged,
At least you have the effort to attend gatherings of like-minded people who sound athiest to me, then I'm all for it.
(I helped save b3ta! PointlessCamel Last one on drugs is a queer., Mon 12 Oct 2009, 21:05, archived)
# Oh, I'm not :)
I have to conceed that it sounds pretty cringy, at least at first. I suspect the whole "re-branding" thing might be more relavent in America, where they believe that atheists eat babies.
(I helped save b3ta! Crystal Magnet Like a diamond geezer, but better, Mon 12 Oct 2009, 21:14, archived)
# Remember both saying that it was a term
that implied superiority over the opposing party, which is never a good thing.

Mentioned here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=egILZ4ZQpPs
(I helped save b3ta! PointlessCamel Last one on drugs is a queer., Mon 12 Oct 2009, 20:44, archived)
# Are you sure?
"We brights are not claiming to be bright (meaning clever, intelligent), any more than gays claim to be gay (meaning joyful, carefree)" Dawkins writing in Wired, 2003
(I helped save b3ta! Crystal Magnet Like a diamond geezer, but better, Mon 12 Oct 2009, 20:48, archived)
# Yep, pretty sure he dropped the title for his book tour,
as Hitchens had persuaded him it sounded condescending.

Have you seen The Four Horsemen: www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuyUz2XLp1E
(I helped save b3ta! PointlessCamel Last one on drugs is a queer., Mon 12 Oct 2009, 20:58, archived)
# Yes, I have. Most enjoyable :)
Hitchens? Calling other people condescending? that's a bit ironic, isn't it? Still, I'm sure no-one wants to get into a Peoples-Front-of-Judea argument over semantics. Dawkins and the Brights movement still have a lot in common.

Reminds me that I still have Darwin's Dangerous Idea on my bookshelf and I still haven't read it! Must switch off computer and read more...
(I helped save b3ta! Crystal Magnet Like a diamond geezer, but better, Mon 12 Oct 2009, 21:07, archived)
# I myself am a Hitchenist/Saganist
so I tend to give them a lot of slack where others wouldn't. No need to argue at all, we sound like we both know more than Fox News which is the most important thing. :)

Computers always get in the way of the bookshelf dammit! I must read Dawkins new one at some point.
(I helped save b3ta! PointlessCamel Last one on drugs is a queer., Mon 12 Oct 2009, 21:11, archived)
# I keep failing The Extended Phenotype.
Currently enjoying Ben Goldacre's Bad Science though - there's a book I can understand!

Right, I'm off out. Laters.
(I helped save b3ta! Crystal Magnet Like a diamond geezer, but better, Mon 12 Oct 2009, 21:21, archived)
# *googles brights*
ah, right, i'm with you now
(I helped save b3ta! Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Mon 12 Oct 2009, 20:42, archived)