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# the population needs to care enough first.
without being patronising about the uneducated masses, I would hope that Dawkins will be able to make more documentaries and suchlike. His books are boring as fuck and for that reason, I think he would probably turn off a lot of people who don't already have an interest in him.

He writes in a bit of an academicy way, which is irritating, as I prefer to try to write in a more accessible way, even if its for an academic paper. For example, I think Bill Bryson's Short History of Almost Everything is well written and accessible for people not necessarily well-versed in physics and cosmos (like me)... I think the way forward for influencing collective consciousness, is for Dawkins to make some engaging, interesting documentaries which appeal to a wider cross-section and to stop writing like a smug cunt.
(, Wed 2 Dec 2009, 11:08, archived)
# I agree with all of this
but if Dawkins can influence others then they can perhaps try to educate the masses in a more accessible way
(, Wed 2 Dec 2009, 11:15, archived)
# yes, I agree with that too.
perhaps it's a change that ought to happen in scientific/academic writing, that people need to stop using hoity-toity exclusive language just for the sake of it, so that more people (or even people other than themselves) can understand what they're on about.

I saw a presentation from a youngish professor on the importance of this, and it was most enjoyable, although the old guys in the crowd ripped him a brand new arse. The point is really, that academia is pointless if only academics can understand what it's all about.
(, Wed 2 Dec 2009, 11:25, archived)
# I agree with all of this.
*picks pint back up*
(, Wed 2 Dec 2009, 11:45, archived)
# *grunts*
and if Dawkins should then turn arahnd to me, trying to tell me that what I fink has such a high probability to be wrong as would render the likelihood of it being correct as negligible I should say: "OI! DAWKINS! NOOOOOOOOOO! YOU ARE NOT THE MESSIAH OF ATHEISM AND RATIONAL THOUGHT! YOU CANNOT MAKE AN ORGANISED GROUP OF ATHEISTS, BUT I WOULD PERHAPS BE PERSUADED TO LET YOU TAKE MY MOTHER OUT FOR A DRINK IF SHE HAPPENED TO BE SINGLE!"
(, Wed 2 Dec 2009, 11:51, archived)
# *agrees*
(, Wed 2 Dec 2009, 12:00, archived)