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# Trust me
Drinking a lot of wine does not equal culture.
(, Wed 24 Feb 2010, 14:21, archived)
# True...
But the fermentation of beers and wines along side agriculture is one of the driving forces behind groups of humans moving on from hunter-gathering and forming collectives.

Or, that could be a load of bollocks.
(, Wed 24 Feb 2010, 14:37, archived)
# No it certainly is true
it's just that people have other reasons to meet these days. You need a pretty special group if you're going to get 100 people to all meet in a paddock to drink dirty spirits.
(, Wed 24 Feb 2010, 14:40, archived)
# Sounds more like dogging...
but point taken.

(, Wed 24 Feb 2010, 14:52, archived)