doesnt say how much he would have profited by
Dont know much about how it works but cant imagine it was very much if the stock only dropped from 5.7 to 5.4 and his stake was only £65,000
( , Fri 21 Apr 2017, 10:13, Share, Reply)
Dont know much about how it works but cant imagine it was very much if the stock only dropped from 5.7 to 5.4 and his stake was only £65,000
( , Fri 21 Apr 2017, 10:13, Share, Reply)
I'm thinking if his great trade is based on bombing a bus,
he wasn't what you call a great trader. Bombing buses isn't alpha. It's just leverage in a short skirt.
( , Fri 21 Apr 2017, 10:18, Share, Reply)
he wasn't what you call a great trader. Bombing buses isn't alpha. It's just leverage in a short skirt.
( , Fri 21 Apr 2017, 10:18, Share, Reply)
On the basis of those figures he be just over 5% better off I reckon.
So maybe around £3250 to the good, which I'm not sure would cover the cost of the transaction or other charges.
( , Fri 21 Apr 2017, 10:25, Share, Reply)
So maybe around £3250 to the good, which I'm not sure would cover the cost of the transaction or other charges.
( , Fri 21 Apr 2017, 10:25, Share, Reply)
explosive charges for one.
I suspect he was expecting the boom to be more big badda boom and the price to drop further.
( , Fri 21 Apr 2017, 10:27, Share, Reply)
I suspect he was expecting the boom to be more big badda boom and the price to drop further.
( , Fri 21 Apr 2017, 10:27, Share, Reply)
Do you think he had the chance to close out his position before they slapped on the cuffs?
( , Fri 21 Apr 2017, 10:34, Share, Reply)
( , Fri 21 Apr 2017, 10:34, Share, Reply)
I have no idea what "close out his position" means but I'm guessing it's some deviant sexual practise.
( , Fri 21 Apr 2017, 10:49, Share, Reply)
( , Fri 21 Apr 2017, 10:49, Share, Reply)
When you short...
Your stake is basically the maximum you can make. You are selling shares someone else owns at today's price with a promise to buy the shares back within a certain time period and hand them back. You then trouser the difference.
The most he could have made was 65k.
( , Fri 21 Apr 2017, 10:36, Share, Reply)
Your stake is basically the maximum you can make. You are selling shares someone else owns at today's price with a promise to buy the shares back within a certain time period and hand them back. You then trouser the difference.
The most he could have made was 65k.
( , Fri 21 Apr 2017, 10:36, Share, Reply)
That assumes the share price drops 100% to zero.
Under such extreme circumstances I think the deal might just be null and voided in the small print.
( , Fri 21 Apr 2017, 10:40, Share, Reply)
Under such extreme circumstances I think the deal might just be null and voided in the small print.
( , Fri 21 Apr 2017, 10:40, Share, Reply)
Indeed it does.
Seems like a huge amount of effort and risk for a maximum potential gain of 65k.
( , Fri 21 Apr 2017, 10:46, Share, Reply)
Seems like a huge amount of effort and risk for a maximum potential gain of 65k.
( , Fri 21 Apr 2017, 10:46, Share, Reply)
I was surprised he could find a bank or fund to short with when his capital was so low and was leveraged.
Anyway, this game is about yield not the pound note figure.
( , Fri 21 Apr 2017, 10:51, Share, Reply)
Anyway, this game is about yield not the pound note figure.
( , Fri 21 Apr 2017, 10:51, Share, Reply)
And now he can look forward to yielding his bum in the prison showers for the rest of his life.
( , Fri 21 Apr 2017, 11:00, Share, Reply)
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yes, but it's always leveraged.
In this case he was trading options contracts - which are leveraged anyway - and probably trading on margin so perhaps a tenth of the contract up front.
( , Fri 21 Apr 2017, 12:06, Share, Reply)
In this case he was trading options contracts - which are leveraged anyway - and probably trading on margin so perhaps a tenth of the contract up front.
( , Fri 21 Apr 2017, 12:06, Share, Reply)
Yes.
What I meant was he had no capital at all so he took a loan to even get the deal set up.
( , Fri 21 Apr 2017, 12:19, Share, Reply)
What I meant was he had no capital at all so he took a loan to even get the deal set up.
( , Fri 21 Apr 2017, 12:19, Share, Reply)