I’m not anti-trans, but I am anti-lies.
Trans women are not women, trans women are trans women. The slogan ‘Trans women are women’ is a self defeating logical fallacy. I’m sorry if you think that statement is anti-trans or evil, but it’s not, it’s just basic medical science.
Anyway, I’d love to stay and bicker, but I must go and pick up my new hoover, which cost more than my first car. What progress we have made in a quarter of a century!
P.S. That vid was about Hillsborough, or at least as much of the angry rant I could bear was.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sat 14 Aug 2021, 13:23,
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The Hillsborough reference was a frame for talking about the lies that the press peddle
Your position that gender is entirely a sex characteristic is not shared by the medical profession - here's the BMA's statement on the matter.
www.bma.org.uk/media/3584/bma-submission-reform-of-the-gender-recognition-act.pdf
Have fun with you new vacuum. Inflation is crazy, isn't it? My first car was 50 quid (+150 quid to get it roadworthy). I spent that much on fuel last time I filled up.
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Invisible Wizard - 10th Level Nerf-herder, Sat 14 Aug 2021, 13:43,
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I think his position is that Trans Women generally have an X and a Y chromosome, whereas a biological woman has two X's.
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X & Y chromosomes are not completely binary
Besides which, sex is not gender:
www.coe.int/en/web/gender-matters/sex-and-gender
www.ons.gov.uk/economy/environmentalaccounts/articles/whatisthedifferencebetweensexandgender/2019-02-21
This has been fairly long established in law.
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Invisible Wizard - 10th Level Nerf-herder, Sat 14 Aug 2021, 14:16,
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I'm well aware that sex is not gender.
I've said about as much as I'm willing to say on this subject. As others have mentioned, it's getting a bit fucking tired now. Its such a complex topic with so many facets that very few people are going to be singing off completely the same hymn sheet. Likewise, it's a very emotionally charged subject for some folk - so unless your subjective opinions on the matter align perfectly, there's always going to be fervent discourse.
I'm all for Trans Rights. And I'm all for individuals having the freedom to identify/dress/present as whatever gender and sex they feel most comfortable with. But at the end of the day, are we living in a society that should or could allow Trans-Women the same freedoms that biological women have? Not even close. Is that a bad thing? Probably. But we're at least a generation away from making any real progress on that issue.
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Thanks for the support, seriously.
The kids of my friends seems to be quite happy with trans rights, they've got no problem with trans men or women in their spaces.
It'd be nice to think that the equality in rights and practice that trans people deserve is starting right now - if it takes that generation to settle down, that'll be sad, but I hope at least we're on the route.
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Invisible Wizard - 10th Level Nerf-herder, Sat 14 Aug 2021, 15:12,
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That’s just it though.
As you say, the kids have no problem with trans men or women, nor should they, nor do I. The only significant problem I have with the whole thing is crystallised in that slogan I mentioned. Just don’t tell me a trans woman is a woman. That’s doublethink. War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength.
Update on how well the hoover sucks coming soon.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sat 14 Aug 2021, 15:40,
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So you've got the fleshlight vacuum attachment then.
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FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Sat 14 Aug 2021, 20:18,
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I've done a bit of online gaming in lockdown to pass the time
and based on that I've come to the conclusion that most people under 30 are horrible cunts, the younger they are the worse
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Sat 14 Aug 2021, 16:37,
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maybe it's just the gaming community, rather that the general populace, granted
but it doesn't exactly make me think the next generation is going to be some chill tolerant adults. they'll just pretend to be for the opportunities it offers to be sanctimonious and mean. i don't say anything, I've got kids sleeping and what am I gonna do that that their parents haven't, but I observe the little shits
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Sun 15 Aug 2021, 1:20,
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