Or maybe I tell it to my friend
who nearly got blown up by a missile in Be'er Sheva.
I don't want civilian deaths, but when someone's trying to kill my comrades I sure as hell know what I want to do to Hamas, and if one Gazan lady dies, then it's a shame, but I'd rather she died than one of my friends.
I know it's trendy in this country to support the perceived underdog, but the champagne socialists here are playing with other people's lives based off propaganda and limited knowledge. What do you know of what's happened in the Democratic Republic of Congo in the past 40 years off the top of your head? What's to say your knowledge of the Middle East is any better? I know people there, I have ties there, I have direct links and up to date knowledge of the area, and I have to say, it's a whole lot different than the image painted in this country.
I feel sorry for the dad, but when in war soldiers fire to defend themselves; it's as simple as that. It's a shame, but then again, war is a shame.
(, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 2:48, Reply)
but on the other hand
Yes I will assume you know your stuff, you clearly do. Better than myself but that doesn't make you more right. I'm of the camp that doesn't agree to forced seizure of land in '67. I mean, can you not understand why Palestine is pissed off at Israel? I don't condone violence in any form, and therefore the actions of either belligerent. But I don't think the IDF should be there. Also it worries me that you place different value on peoples lives.
(, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 2:58, Reply)
The land before '67
wasn't Palestinian controlled; and was under far worse occupation from Egypt and Jordan.
Hamas is a wing of the Muslim Brotherhood, an opposition to Egypt's ruling elite and the Palestinians tried to overthrow the Hashemite kings, leading to Black September (after which there have been no problems in Jordan, funnily enough... welcome to the Middle East, got a problem? Flatten a town!)
It wasn't land seized from Palestinians, but from Jordan and Egypt.
I place different values on people's lives just as if someone pointed a weapon at your mother and a weapon and someone entirely different and asked you to make a decision (with no flipping of a coin) what would you do? It's not that they're Jews or Israelis that I place more value on their lives, but because they're my friends, my comrades, my tribe if you will. I wish I didn't have to, but at a time of war, I do.
(, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 3:04, Reply)
But
It doesn't look like its much better for the Palestinians living there now than it was under Jordan or Egypt, how is this helping? Hamas firing rockets into Israel isn't, that's for sure, but kicking seven shades of shit out of everyone living there isn't either it seems. Would be nice if all parties could sort this out diplomatically (hah!). I just don't believe the population in that tiny area should be forced to live in a cage under the supervision of a country who seems angry that it exists in the first place.(a rash statement i know and general, and probably innacurate)
(, Mon 19 Jan 2009, 3:17, Reply)