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This is a normal post ok, so electric's out before it's started
So we do nothing, carry on with the oil, hope something better comes along and..?

Like it, soldier. It's a robust plan.

We'd need more electricity, fine. We can build more power stations. Those power stations will, initially, use the same fuel as the cars, but eventually we go over to wind power, wave power and, when they finally perfect it, fusion. We need to change our infrastructure - so what? If we don't change it, we die: It's really very simple.
 (MrOli is ugly, but in the morning you will be sober, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 15:03, Reply)
This is a normal post surely it'd be best for the planet if we did die?

(I helped save b3ta! Rebel biscuit stercore sumus et nos esse novimus, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 15:15, Reply)
This is a normal post lol, well I can't argue with that :-)

(MrOli is ugly, but in the morning you will be sober, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 15:24, Reply)
This is a normal post I didn't say we do nothing
I just suggested we stopped howling at the moon with silly ideas. O level physics will tell you energy never runs out, it simply changes form. Newton will tell you for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. Whatever we harness from the wind or sea, there will be a price to pay somewhere; especially with the amount we are talking about to power the planet. The only free energy we get without a 'physics' price is the sun. I suggest we work on harnessing that.
 (I helped save b3ta! TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 15:22, Reply)
This is a normal post Seems fair :-)
How about marshmallows on really long sticks?

Drop one of those bad boys in your cocoa, it'll boil instantly...no more microwaves needed!! :-D
 (MrOli is ugly, but in the morning you will be sober, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 15:26, Reply)
This is a normal post Now that idea I like!
But it does really bug me that people rant, even violently protest, without thinking it through. Take wind energy. If a turbine was able (they aren't yet) to harness 1% of the wind passing it, the wind the other side hass 99% of the power it had. So 100 turbines would mean a dead calm on the lee side. Pollen relies on wind, as does much of nature. What are the quincyquonces? I don't think we know.
If we dam every river or bay to grab tidal power, what does that do th the eco-systems that existed there? I don't think we know.
In summary, I'm not about to go and bash a copper over the head to save the planet when I have no idea what I'm talking about.
 (I helped save b3ta! TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 15:37, Reply)
This is a normal post Having no idea what you're talking about
If you'd like to have an idea what you're talking about, try reading this book, available for free online Sustainable Energy - without the hot air by Prof. David MacKay.
 (qwrx, Wed 30 Jun 2010, 16:04, Reply)