Hmm
Lot of things to say on this, but not nearly enough time. TheSundaeLunch speaks truths and facts.
Basically, the whole thing is; "Other people care about you". Which is lovely. But you might as well write a poem for someone who's hallucinating, telling them that there are no voices telling them to attack the carpet with a knife despite what they might be hearing.
In fact, quote attack:
"In my opinion it is just as absurd to call a man a coward who destroys himself, as to call a man a coward who dies of a malignant fever... It is in vain that a man of sound mind and cool temper understands the condition of such a wretched being, in vain he counsels him. He can no more communicate his own wisdom to him than a healthy man can instil his strength into the invalid, by whose bedside he is seated."
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"Shame upon him who can look on calmly, and exclaim, 'The foolish girl! she should have waited; she should have allowed time to wear off the impression; her despair would have been softened, and she would have found another lover to comfort her.' One might as well say, 'The fool, to die of a fever! why did he not wait till his strength was restored, till his blood became calm? all would then have gone well, and he would have been alive now.'"
Goethe - The Sorrows of Young Werther.
Anyway. Sounds like an angry young man who's bitter over someone close to him dying. Understandable, really, but I don't know if he'd be saying the same thing if she survived. Can you imagine him telling her all that as she lies on a hospital bed, lying her arse off to the doctors and nurses, trying to convince them to not section her? Hmm.
( , Fri 30 Sep 2011, 18:19, Share, Reply)
Lot of things to say on this, but not nearly enough time. TheSundaeLunch speaks truths and facts.
Basically, the whole thing is; "Other people care about you". Which is lovely. But you might as well write a poem for someone who's hallucinating, telling them that there are no voices telling them to attack the carpet with a knife despite what they might be hearing.
In fact, quote attack:
"In my opinion it is just as absurd to call a man a coward who destroys himself, as to call a man a coward who dies of a malignant fever... It is in vain that a man of sound mind and cool temper understands the condition of such a wretched being, in vain he counsels him. He can no more communicate his own wisdom to him than a healthy man can instil his strength into the invalid, by whose bedside he is seated."
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"Shame upon him who can look on calmly, and exclaim, 'The foolish girl! she should have waited; she should have allowed time to wear off the impression; her despair would have been softened, and she would have found another lover to comfort her.' One might as well say, 'The fool, to die of a fever! why did he not wait till his strength was restored, till his blood became calm? all would then have gone well, and he would have been alive now.'"
Goethe - The Sorrows of Young Werther.
Anyway. Sounds like an angry young man who's bitter over someone close to him dying. Understandable, really, but I don't know if he'd be saying the same thing if she survived. Can you imagine him telling her all that as she lies on a hospital bed, lying her arse off to the doctors and nurses, trying to convince them to not section her? Hmm.
( , Fri 30 Sep 2011, 18:19, Share, Reply)
Also
"By no means am I belittling that because I've known the troubles you've had"
Belittle: to regard or portray as less impressive or important than appearances indicate; depreciate; disparage.
"And if one day you can't rein it in, and of your last breath you are the only witness, then fuck everybody else"
So this Scroobius Pip person is in a band? This poem thing of his has right fucked me off.
( , Fri 30 Sep 2011, 20:05, Share, Reply)
"By no means am I belittling that because I've known the troubles you've had"
Belittle: to regard or portray as less impressive or important than appearances indicate; depreciate; disparage.
"And if one day you can't rein it in, and of your last breath you are the only witness, then fuck everybody else"
So this Scroobius Pip person is in a band? This poem thing of his has right fucked me off.
( , Fri 30 Sep 2011, 20:05, Share, Reply)
The only person who really knows the troubles is the person feeling the pain. And that pain was enough to make them end it. Nobody can appreciate how great that pain must have been. He should find solace in the fact that she can finally be in a place where she isn't hurting any more. Being angry at somebody for ending it all is as bad, if not worse, than the 'selfishness' of killing yourself.
( , Sat 1 Oct 2011, 16:07, Share, Reply)