"My faiths has very strong beliefs
that if I commit an abortion, encourage an abortion...I was beaten up in Boston because I pointed out time and again that I encourage girls not to get abortions...I have never done anything that violates the principals of my church in that regard...but my church does not say that a member of our church has to be opposed to allowing choice in society, it does not say that, and therefore there are mormon democrats...and the church doesn't say 'they're wrong, they're being ex-communicated' it says, 'look, *we* are opposed to abortion ourselves but we allow other people to make their own choice'...I disagree with that view...it's wrong...and it's not a mormon thing, it's a secular position..."
It's no wonder the people in the video below were so messed up when trying to describe what this chap stands for, he ducks and dives and splits so many infinitives, you can pick any particular view and say what he said just supported it or disagreed with it and it would all be right.
(, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 17:27, Share, Reply)
I think rather he is distinguishing his church's beliefs from others out there that say no abortion, no matter the situation.
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BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 17:44,
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Sure,
but what does *he* believe? His church says he should let others do as they please but he says it is wrong but he's never done anything to violate his church's principals but ... I'm just saying it's this kind of messed up thinking/talking that has so many pundits on the gravytrain and so many supporters sounding like brainwashed, soundbite spitting machines.
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the 'situation' being a womans body and life, not to mention the possible offsprings
and the subsequent impact on social spending, ie your tax dollars. (yeah, i'll go there if that's what it takes but, quite frankly, if that first sentence doesn't hit home...) regardless, it's quite a logical argument that can be backed up with many a study, research paper and statistic, not to mention the odd bill hicks joke - barricade the cemeteries, you fucks - but i'll leave the reader to do their own googling, maybe they'll stumble upon something i've yet to that will change my current opinion on such matters and educate me further. i'm quite open minded like that.
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artifus is doing it all wrong, Fri 2 Nov 2012, 18:00,
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