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Your Ginger Fuhrer froths, "I hate my bank. Not because of debt or anything but because I hate being sold to - possibly pathologically so - and everytime I speak to them they try and sell me services. Gold cards, isas, insurance, you know the crap. It drives me insane. I ALREADY BANK WITH YOU. STOP IT. YOU MAKE ME FRIGHTED TO DO MY NORMAL BANKING. I'm angry even thinking about them."

So, tell us your banking stories of woe.

No doubt at least one of you has shagged in the vault, shat on a counter or thrown up in a cash machine. Or something

(, Thu 16 Jul 2009, 13:15)
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Not a pyramid, mostly
It's not a pyramid because value = money is being created by companies that some people work for. Manufacturing companies add value to stuff so you get more out than you put in (kind of the principle of investing in a company). I pay my mortgage with the money I earn from a manufacturing company. Now I agree that some service industries are 'creating value' simply by shuffling money around, and that is based on a big pyramid of investments and CDOs and securities and all that stuff. Hence the danger of shutting down manufacturing in Britain (or anywhere else).
(, Fri 17 Jul 2009, 14:43, Reply)

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