I don't understand the attraction
Smaug says: Ricky Gervais. Lesbian pr0n. Going into a crowded bar, purely because it's crowded. All these things seem to be popular with everybody else, but I just can't work out why. What leaves you cold just as much as it turns everyone else on?
( , Thu 15 Oct 2009, 14:54)
Smaug says: Ricky Gervais. Lesbian pr0n. Going into a crowded bar, purely because it's crowded. All these things seem to be popular with everybody else, but I just can't work out why. What leaves you cold just as much as it turns everyone else on?
( , Thu 15 Oct 2009, 14:54)
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It's that drive I'm just a bit dubious about
I can see where that drive is and I can feel it in a lot of their songs. But this may just be down to the kind of music that really 'does it' for you: apart from that sort of 'classic' rock, I listen to a lot of jazz. I take your point about the energy in Black Dog, Rock and Roll, etc., but, once they get going, I actually feel far more drive in, say Grant Green's rendition of My Favourite Things or the Oscar Peterson Trio playing Sometimes I'm Happy.
Similarly, if I listen to a lot of Who or Hendrix and get into the feel of it, and I then put Zeppelin on, I find the Zeppelin stodgy by comparison and I think it's just down to the drumming styles; The Who and the Hendrix Experience followed the jazz tradition of having the beat anchored by the bassist and drummers who played around it, whereas Zeppelin probably did a lot for the modern rock approach of having the beat centred around the drummer. This element of it, I think, is just down to preferring one style or t'other, and that's probably why Bonham's playing leaves me cold.
( , Fri 16 Oct 2009, 13:38, 1 reply)
I can see where that drive is and I can feel it in a lot of their songs. But this may just be down to the kind of music that really 'does it' for you: apart from that sort of 'classic' rock, I listen to a lot of jazz. I take your point about the energy in Black Dog, Rock and Roll, etc., but, once they get going, I actually feel far more drive in, say Grant Green's rendition of My Favourite Things or the Oscar Peterson Trio playing Sometimes I'm Happy.
Similarly, if I listen to a lot of Who or Hendrix and get into the feel of it, and I then put Zeppelin on, I find the Zeppelin stodgy by comparison and I think it's just down to the drumming styles; The Who and the Hendrix Experience followed the jazz tradition of having the beat anchored by the bassist and drummers who played around it, whereas Zeppelin probably did a lot for the modern rock approach of having the beat centred around the drummer. This element of it, I think, is just down to preferring one style or t'other, and that's probably why Bonham's playing leaves me cold.
( , Fri 16 Oct 2009, 13:38, 1 reply)
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Fair point!
Not listened to the Oscar Peterson Trio though!
I don't know if you listened to any of the live stuff, compared to the album versions, but Id recommend the DVD for a start. Both JPJ and bonham go off in diff places and make the songs miles better.
And, aside from Wont Get Fooled Again, Moon's drumming isn't that good. Id say I dont understand why everyone rates him so much, but like you say, preference.
( , Fri 16 Oct 2009, 13:49, closed)
Fair point!
Not listened to the Oscar Peterson Trio though!
I don't know if you listened to any of the live stuff, compared to the album versions, but Id recommend the DVD for a start. Both JPJ and bonham go off in diff places and make the songs miles better.
And, aside from Wont Get Fooled Again, Moon's drumming isn't that good. Id say I dont understand why everyone rates him so much, but like you say, preference.
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