okay, just so you understand where i'm coming from here...
i have been caught speeding 3 times in 23 years of driving.
1st time doing 55mph on a single carriageway A-road driving a 3.5t van. oops. 3points and £30.
2nd time doing an average of 113.9mph over 2.92miles on the motorway riding my bike. 6 points and £250.
3rd time doing an average of 116.4mph on the same stretch of motorway 14 months later. same bike but this time no insurance. 8 points and £450. exceptional hardship (non-earning partner) meant i kept my licence.
i then had to make a choice, either insure my van (now £1600 a year TPFT) or my bike (£1900 TPFT) cos i couldn't afford both. i chose the van, put the bike off the road until enough points had expired to make it affordable to re-insure.
and in the meantime i got on and behaved myself.
yeah, maybe some speed limits are innapropriate (generally in the minds of those who get caught) but they are still the limit.
how much more simple can it be?
stick to the limit or get punished when you get caught.
and when that happens then just take it on the chin for god's sake.
having sympathy for someone when they get points for speeding is as ridiculous as having sympathy for me having a hangover today. i chosed to get pissed last night just like i chose to speed on my bike.
responsibility is not a popular word with some people.
( blaireau69 , the Cumbrian Travis Bickle., Sun 18 Oct 2009, 8:36, 1 reply)

exactly
the point.

"yeah, maybe some speed limits are innapropriate (generally in the minds of those who get caught) but they are still the limit.
how much more simple can it be?
stick to the limit or get punished when you get caught.
and when that happens then just take it on the chin for god's sake."

So, just do as they say and let them continue to take the piss?

Nice. No wonder it gets worse rather than better.

They are the 'limit' because someone says so - someone with a vested interest in taking money from you. Is that person right? Sometimes, sometimes not, but you are saying that you should just take it on the chin in either case, because "it's the limit".

You sir, are wrong. Things, especially authority, needs challenging constantly, else you end up in East Germany.
(dchurch bah, Sun 18 Oct 2009, 9:30, closed)

there are far better ways of challenging the authority than allowing yourself to get points on your licence.
or do you think that if you fight the law by breaking it you're being intelligent?
i don't think a 40 zone on a straight bit of duel carriageway is appropriate (generally) but i don't think that doing 60 down it and getting clocked is at all bright.
( blaireau69 , the Cumbrian Travis Bickle., Sun 18 Oct 2009, 10:57, closed)

Perhaps not
but if you fight the fine - you will usually win, and then that is logged and catalogued.

How else would you fight to get the limit changed to a more appropriate level?

I fought 11 tickets (yes, some were deliberatly incurred by me for this purpose) on one stretch of road. This stretch of road was 60mph - quite appropriate for the level of traffic/houses etc... One night at around midnight a chap hit and killed an elderly woman and her dog. He was doing an estimated 130mph (according to the report). Shortly after that the limit was changed to 40 and a camera put up.

Would that 40 sign have stopped him doing 130 at midnight? I seriously doubt it.

Anyway, each of those 11 tickets were thrown away - I got not one single point or fine.

Six weeks ago, the limit was raised to 60mph.
(dchurch bah, Sun 18 Oct 2009, 11:07, closed)