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This is a question The passive-aggressive guilt trip

My mother is an expert in the guilt-trip. Last week she phoned to say "Happy Birthday" and, after a 10 minute conversation, finished with, "Well, I hope you have a nicer time than I did on the day you were born."

She also stated that she was going to kill herself when she reached 65. On Christmas Day morning. Having rung up to see if there was anything she could bring for lunch.

I think it's just a mother thing, but how good are your relatives and friends at the passive-aggessive?

(, Thu 13 Oct 2005, 9:52)
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She is an ex-Weasel. She has ceased to be...
...any of my problem!

Earlier this year I foolishly met an ex for a drink and something to eat. When I failed to laugh at one of her crap jokes and then laughed at something dumb she did I got a tearful angry reaction. It's worth pointing out that she had some genuinely bad things in her life that were troubling her at that time (some serious, some trivial from my p.o.v. but affecting to her none the less).

I realised then for the first time that she would *always* have some issue that would give her an excuse to act hurt, would always have some issue that she felt would give her some moral upper hand and would always claim some sort of victimhood-superiority-complex because of this. She had in the past claimed "That she felt things more than other people" and that "Other people could not understand the depth of her pain". My reaction that my friend Jenny at work with Bowel Cancer probably had a clear idea about pain and suffering was not well received...

I was just tired of all this and wanted it to stop and just not be part of this "more depressed than thou" cycle of recriminations - I told her this and I got the response "That makes me really uncomfortable, etc, etc"

I responded with a not very eloquent but extremely satisfyingly loud "GET FUCKED!" and got up to leave.

She said "You can't leave, you have to stay here and work through these issues and then apologise"

I said "GET FUCKED!" again even louder. Boy that felt good.

The current Ms Weasel (who won't like the term "the current" and therefore may not click 'I like this', so please click it for her) can reduce both of us to helpless laughter by saying "...that makes me really uncomfortable etc, etc" to which I always heartily respond "GET FUCKED! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"

I may now write a self-help book on this subject: "I'm OK, You're All Right, She's Fucked Up! - The art of telling overly needy ex-loved ones to go and fuck themselves"


PS Lannes - about being happy, to badly quote from The Princess Bride: "Life is pain Princess, anyone who tells you differently is lying or selling you something"
(, Mon 17 Oct 2005, 14:53, Reply)

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