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I used to live next door to a pair of elderly naturists, only finding out about their hobby when they bade me a cheerful, saggy 'Hello' while I was 25 feet up a ladder repairing the chimney. Luckily, a bush broke my fall, but the memory of a fat, naked man in an ill-fitting wig will live with me forever.
( , Thu 1 Oct 2009, 12:41)
I used to live next door to a pair of elderly naturists, only finding out about their hobby when they bade me a cheerful, saggy 'Hello' while I was 25 feet up a ladder repairing the chimney. Luckily, a bush broke my fall, but the memory of a fat, naked man in an ill-fitting wig will live with me forever.
( , Thu 1 Oct 2009, 12:41)
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I had similar problems
but not on this scale.
It is definitely anti social behaviour. Speak to your environmental health officer at your local council. They are likely to give you diary sheets to fill in times and dates. Do this and return them, it's the only way to get to the next stages which are either sound recording equipment or out of hours attendance to witness the noise.
You can take out a private prosecution/injunction but it is risky.
I had trouble getting them to take me seriously at first. I saw my local councillor and he helped but the help died off quite quickly. I then went to see my MP who at the time was a Cabinet Minister. One letter later we had noise engineers in both homes testing for leakage, sound insulation and all sorts. The tenant was given a severe rousting about breaking his agreement and told he was in last chance saloon- one more breach and sound equipment confiscated and out on his arse.
So far, 14 months on, he's behaved.
Please try these methods. I know they seem pointless but please trust me, I have been through it and you have to toe the line- no environmental officer will stand in front of a magistrate to ask for a possession order without this being carried out to the letter.
Tip 1: If you are given diary sheets, add loads ( and I mean loads) of detail. Not only does it give them more evidence, such as times, dates, how long it went on for, even what song it was- it also quickly fills a file. A thick file looks bad.
Tip 2: Councillors are always up for re-election, usually every year or 2, there is almost certainly a local election coming up and they want your vote. Of course, you always vote for this councillor and his party if you catch my drift....
Tip 3: Don't give up, it will get better, have faith in the stupid long winded system and you will win. It will take time but stick at it. Make a nuisance of yourself. Find the out of hours council number and complain, complain, complain more.
Good luck. Feel free to PM me if you need any advice.
Edit: it definitely isn't a police matter, it's environmental health. The responsibility for this was handed to councils many years ago. The only time is becomes a police matter is if, for instance, they were drinking in the street whilst the party was going on, thus creating a potential public nuisance.
( , Thu 1 Oct 2009, 21:24, 1 reply)
but not on this scale.
It is definitely anti social behaviour. Speak to your environmental health officer at your local council. They are likely to give you diary sheets to fill in times and dates. Do this and return them, it's the only way to get to the next stages which are either sound recording equipment or out of hours attendance to witness the noise.
You can take out a private prosecution/injunction but it is risky.
I had trouble getting them to take me seriously at first. I saw my local councillor and he helped but the help died off quite quickly. I then went to see my MP who at the time was a Cabinet Minister. One letter later we had noise engineers in both homes testing for leakage, sound insulation and all sorts. The tenant was given a severe rousting about breaking his agreement and told he was in last chance saloon- one more breach and sound equipment confiscated and out on his arse.
So far, 14 months on, he's behaved.
Please try these methods. I know they seem pointless but please trust me, I have been through it and you have to toe the line- no environmental officer will stand in front of a magistrate to ask for a possession order without this being carried out to the letter.
Tip 1: If you are given diary sheets, add loads ( and I mean loads) of detail. Not only does it give them more evidence, such as times, dates, how long it went on for, even what song it was- it also quickly fills a file. A thick file looks bad.
Tip 2: Councillors are always up for re-election, usually every year or 2, there is almost certainly a local election coming up and they want your vote. Of course, you always vote for this councillor and his party if you catch my drift....
Tip 3: Don't give up, it will get better, have faith in the stupid long winded system and you will win. It will take time but stick at it. Make a nuisance of yourself. Find the out of hours council number and complain, complain, complain more.
Good luck. Feel free to PM me if you need any advice.
Edit: it definitely isn't a police matter, it's environmental health. The responsibility for this was handed to councils many years ago. The only time is becomes a police matter is if, for instance, they were drinking in the street whilst the party was going on, thus creating a potential public nuisance.
( , Thu 1 Oct 2009, 21:24, 1 reply)
thank you thank you
I will certainly try the MP route if the council continue to be reluctant - my MP is in fact Jaqui "Husbands porn on expenses" Smith!
I'm just scared that if I complain and the council reject my complaint as not being serious enough, the problem will get worse as I get known as "the moany twat next door" and they'll just make even more noise :o/
( , Thu 1 Oct 2009, 21:43, closed)
I will certainly try the MP route if the council continue to be reluctant - my MP is in fact Jaqui "Husbands porn on expenses" Smith!
I'm just scared that if I complain and the council reject my complaint as not being serious enough, the problem will get worse as I get known as "the moany twat next door" and they'll just make even more noise :o/
( , Thu 1 Oct 2009, 21:43, closed)
PM'd you
Same MP, same town hall I guess.... sent you a name and phone number.
B3tans, working together to rid the world of noisy little feckers!
( , Thu 1 Oct 2009, 22:00, closed)
Same MP, same town hall I guess.... sent you a name and phone number.
B3tans, working together to rid the world of noisy little feckers!
( , Thu 1 Oct 2009, 22:00, closed)
If you have the knowledge of someone who has been there and done it
it will all be easier. It won't be swift but at least you'll know what to expect and where to go next.
We'll nail the little shites!
( , Thu 1 Oct 2009, 22:53, closed)
it will all be easier. It won't be swift but at least you'll know what to expect and where to go next.
We'll nail the little shites!
( , Thu 1 Oct 2009, 22:53, closed)
thank you, your help has been invaluable and I will definately follow the plans you gaz'd me
thank you for taking the time to type them all out.
One question remains - what bright spark decided that it isn't a police matter anymore? If it's illegal to make noise that disturbs others after 11pm why can the police not enforce it anymore? Why must residents have to jump through hoops with the council just to get things done?
Gaah!
( , Thu 1 Oct 2009, 23:19, closed)
thank you for taking the time to type them all out.
One question remains - what bright spark decided that it isn't a police matter anymore? If it's illegal to make noise that disturbs others after 11pm why can the police not enforce it anymore? Why must residents have to jump through hoops with the council just to get things done?
Gaah!
( , Thu 1 Oct 2009, 23:19, closed)
not sure who decided
but it was a national government decision so we can safely say it was not the LibDems!
As others and I have said it is a case of plugging away. It can be tempting to go round and kick some ass or to have someone do it for you, (and I know a couple of providers of such services) but the only real way to get the result you need is to toe the line with written logs, phone calls, sound recordings and so on.
When I had my problem it ended up with a professional sound engineer being contracted to carry out a full noise leakage and soundproofing test. When he rocked up with a monster speaker that chucked 120 decibels of white noise and blasted it around, the little scrote next door realised they meant business- this was last stop before court order and eviction.
One other thing I did was to call the out of hours office on my mobile using a hands free kit, and get them to wait on the line whilst I went and hammered on the door, so they could hear (1) the noise and (2) the verbal abuse I got. Questions like "gosh I'm not at the door yet and can you hear it, isn't it loud?" are good because they will almost always say something like "oh yes", this gives you extra evidence as all calls are logged and/or recorded.
You will get there. It will be slow. It will be frustrating. You will curse a lot. You will bay for blood. One day you will win, and then you'll look back and smile.
( , Fri 2 Oct 2009, 15:47, closed)
but it was a national government decision so we can safely say it was not the LibDems!
As others and I have said it is a case of plugging away. It can be tempting to go round and kick some ass or to have someone do it for you, (and I know a couple of providers of such services) but the only real way to get the result you need is to toe the line with written logs, phone calls, sound recordings and so on.
When I had my problem it ended up with a professional sound engineer being contracted to carry out a full noise leakage and soundproofing test. When he rocked up with a monster speaker that chucked 120 decibels of white noise and blasted it around, the little scrote next door realised they meant business- this was last stop before court order and eviction.
One other thing I did was to call the out of hours office on my mobile using a hands free kit, and get them to wait on the line whilst I went and hammered on the door, so they could hear (1) the noise and (2) the verbal abuse I got. Questions like "gosh I'm not at the door yet and can you hear it, isn't it loud?" are good because they will almost always say something like "oh yes", this gives you extra evidence as all calls are logged and/or recorded.
You will get there. It will be slow. It will be frustrating. You will curse a lot. You will bay for blood. One day you will win, and then you'll look back and smile.
( , Fri 2 Oct 2009, 15:47, closed)
Thank you
Just knowing that someone who lives nearby has taken on the noisy cunts and one fills me with confidence. cheers for all your assistance :D
( , Fri 2 Oct 2009, 17:18, closed)
Just knowing that someone who lives nearby has taken on the noisy cunts and one fills me with confidence. cheers for all your assistance :D
( , Fri 2 Oct 2009, 17:18, closed)
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