listened to read
( The Teviot Moose major 5th., Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:39, archived)

you can do them both at the same time
they're exactly the same...*

*alright, not the second one, but you know what I mean
(rnuk http://flickr.com/rnuk, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:40, archived)