If it were a cheeky few abusing the system, then fine
as you'll always have a minor percentage pushing the boundaries. The start of this story, however, was due to the increasing number of people in this category, and how to tackle that increase.

Or do you think we should give anyone who asks for it state accomodation, whatever the cost?
( Grrrmachine the indifference engine, Tue 5 Feb 2008, 14:35, archived)

Yes.
I don't mind paying tax so people have a roof over their heads if they need it.
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Tue 5 Feb 2008, 14:39, archived)

That's how it worked over here
the ultimate cost was a level of taxation akin to 76% of your income, the complete collapse of privatised industry due to the lack of money flow, massive crime from lack of domestic goods and a crippled ineffective bureaucratic state trying to manage it.

It's nice in theory, but it just doesn't work.
( Grrrmachine the indifference engine, Tue 5 Feb 2008, 14:45, archived)

Thankyou!
Somebody can see the fucking sense in it all.
( Methylene Blue - electrohead, Tue 5 Feb 2008, 14:51, archived)

And all because of not evicting people from council houses!

( Newington, Tue 5 Feb 2008, 14:52, archived)

Newington, as much as I admire you, you've provided nothing to this argument other than
"eviction is wrong." However, it still happens every single day right now in councils up and down the country, and will continue for as long as people abuse the system.

Looking after the needy is necessary, but it doesn't take too long before every single person is classified as "in need." You therefore have to prioritise, and that's all this minister has suggested; a new method to make the housing situation more fluid, to get the more needy people in as quick as possible and the less needy out.
( Grrrmachine the indifference engine, Tue 5 Feb 2008, 14:56, archived)

Do you think "eviction happens" is an argument against "eviction is wrong"?

( Newington, Tue 5 Feb 2008, 15:01, archived)

very much so
if you are from the viewpoint that "eviction is right" in some circumstances.
( Grrrmachine the indifference engine, Tue 5 Feb 2008, 15:03, archived)