I like the idea that America, with one of the world's most staggering national debts
can afford to buy all those oil rich countries.
( Noit happy baby orangutan, Wed 10 Dec 2008, 0:05, archived)

That was the second point I was going to raise.

( mike woz ere 7442200 & 7696970 getter, Wed 10 Dec 2008, 0:06, archived)