I drove LDV
17-seat buses for a few years. Trying to get 15 pissed students from central London to Ullswateron a friday evening in one of those was always entertaining

Much better to drive than trannies though. Ford gearboxes are like stirring spaghetti with a stick.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 5 Jul 2005, 11:43, archived)