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www.youtube.com/watch?v=78b67l_yxUc
(I helped save b3ta! Grrrmachine the indifference engine, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 14:52, archived)
and yes, get rid of the car

(I helped save b3ta! Grrrmachine the indifference engine, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 15:00, archived)
but, big sunroof.

(I helped save b3ta! sleepybinky, Thu 9 Jun 2011, 15:07, archived)