desires are not geneticEdit: I would be interested to see how many fatties gleefully contributed to the Gingers challenge.
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drbroon abloooobloobloo,
Tue 26 Apr 2011, 0:56,
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Would something like sexual desire not be seen as caused by genetics?I am aware that my statement was badly paraphrasing stuff I'd read ages ago, so I am likely to use terms wrongly.
edit: this is what I was trying to say:
(from Nature via Nurture by Matt Ridley)
(edit: this is what I was trying to say:
(from Nature via Nurture by Matt Ridley)
monkeon schmonkeon,
Tue 26 Apr 2011, 1:04,
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basal desires are kind of Freudian in terms of their scientific validity.While it's true that these desires are biologically based, in that they are semi-automatic impulses, they are not solely genetically determined. To summarise, the genotype sets the raw framework for development, where as the phenotype is the expression of the combination of the genotype and environmental factors (in the case of the brain: learning, diet, general health, etc). So, people's desire for food may possibly be genetically predisposed to eat more than another person, this doesn't necessarily mean that it is written in stone... so a child's experience in relation to food, their education etc can influence whether they'll be fat.
Basically, I'm saying that not only are fatties to blame for being fat, so are their parents.
Not really, there are many influences, though parents should exert a measure of control over their overeating kids which may help them to achieve a balance in future...
Sorry if this is gobbledygook, I'm tired.
Edit: yes, I would mostly agree with Mr. Ridley, but wanting something is not the same as doing something. I walk past Greggs often and everytime I do, I want ALL of the pies. However, my control over my own primal impulses prevents me from eating all of the pies and groping the lovely 18 year old girl who gave me all the pies.
(Basically, I'm saying that not only are fatties to blame for being fat, so are their parents.
Not really, there are many influences, though parents should exert a measure of control over their overeating kids which may help them to achieve a balance in future...
Sorry if this is gobbledygook, I'm tired.
Edit: yes, I would mostly agree with Mr. Ridley, but wanting something is not the same as doing something. I walk past Greggs often and everytime I do, I want ALL of the pies. However, my control over my own primal impulses prevents me from eating all of the pies and groping the lovely 18 year old girl who gave me all the pies.
drbroon abloooobloobloo,
Tue 26 Apr 2011, 1:13,
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I largely agree with you.
But I'm fed up with this discussion now.
I wasn't expecting people to make such a meal of it.
(But I'm fed up with this discussion now.
I wasn't expecting people to make such a meal of it.
4Q just lurking,
Tue 26 Apr 2011, 1:22,
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