When Heebs attack!
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4639731.stm
( Mykeyboy A massive, salty filing cabinet, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 11:36, archived)

It may just be that I'm very grumpy today
but I don't find that very amusing, sorry.
( Lonewolf - O R'lyeh? Ya R'lyeh!, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 11:40, archived)

God you're starting to sound like Dill

( Mykeyboy A massive, salty filing cabinet, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 11:42, archived)

Noirmally I have no problem
with the more outrageous posts as they are so over the top that they are funny or the news items contain something that could be amusing or ironic. This is just extremist idiots attacking defensless people so I have trouble finding any humour in the report.
( Lonewolf - O R'lyeh? Ya R'lyeh!, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 11:49, archived)

It gives Mykey a chance to be controveeeeersial

( Newington, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 11:54, archived)

I dont see how its controversial
I do see, however, that you are a nancy boy:)
( Mykeyboy A massive, salty filing cabinet, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 12:00, archived)

they aren't defenceless
they could easily have defended themselves using their handbags, makeup and stillettos

the women however would have been in trouble, I agree ...
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 11:54, archived)

It angered me
as I could imagine that being myself or my friends being stabbed.

However, I still managed to make a silly post down there.

I don't even know what I was trying to say, so please just dismiss this post as the confused rambling of someone who should be in bed.
( s0WmVHAwZgpG, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 11:55, archived)

I apologise for pointing out the insanity of attacking someone
For religious reasons...
( Mykeyboy A massive, salty filing cabinet, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 11:57, archived)

I'm sorry, must be my time of the month
just the way you presented it did not point this out.

Of course I still love you. *bums*
( Lonewolf - O R'lyeh? Ya R'lyeh!, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 11:59, archived)

Not knowing anything about Jews
except some of them wore funny hats and dreadlocks, I was on a plane to Israel.

One of the funny hatted ones got his case out the overhead locker nearly taking my head off, then stood on my foot. I said in a very loud annoyed voice 'Hey! That's my foot you're standing on'. (I might have used different words)

He looked at me in disbelief as the whole plane went quiet and stared at this ignorant (blonde so I stuck out a mile) foerigner who dared to question a foul smelling sweaty weirdo that they obviously held in high esteem. I nearly came under attack for religous reasons.
( Enigmatic ™                 Voice No More                  ©, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 12:00, archived)

You didn't mean to point out the insanity of attacking someone for religious reasons though, did you?
You just wanted to make some shitty jokeoids about yids and poofs.
Have you tried going to a BNP meeting? Your sense of humour would fit in perfectly.
( Newington, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 12:01, archived)

This
in shovelfuls.
(Withiel assumes the position!, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 12:02, archived)

Have you tried looking for your balls recently?

( Mykeyboy A massive, salty filing cabinet, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 12:03, archived)

Hang on
So the structure looks a bit like this:
- Mykey makes a "controversial" comment, probably involving terms of racial, heterosexist or class abuse
- Someone else points out that this is in fact not funny or clever
-Mykey responds with crude heterosexist abuse impugning the masculinity* of the previous poster

Hmmp.


*not that to claim that someone is homosexual is to impugn their masculinity in anthing but the mind of fuckwits.
(Withiel assumes the position!, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 12:07, archived)

You are not familiar with Mykey I take it

( Enigmatic ™                 Voice No More                  ©, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 12:09, archived)

Poof.
I tried really hard not to post this. But the temptation was too great in the end.
( baldmonkey a frothy foul-smelling vaginal discharge, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 12:09, archived)

half-poof
actually.
(Withiel assumes the position!, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 12:15, archived)

You really should go here:
www.4rthur.com

Its right up your alley

This is only the internet my friend, do try to take it all a little less seriously
( Mykeyboy A massive, salty filing cabinet, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 12:10, archived)

So
they don't find hatespeech badly disguised as hilarious cutting edge humour hilarious there?
(Withiel assumes the position!, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 12:17, archived)

You forgot
- Mykey tries to weasel his way out of it by pretending the reason he posted the link in the first place was to draw attention to the these poor victims of dogmatic hatred.
Odious.
( Newington, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 12:14, archived)

God you are such a queen!

( Mykeyboy A massive, salty filing cabinet, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 12:15, archived)

And you're a weaselly faux-racist fuckwit.
However, exchanging insults is childish and boring.
( Newington, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 12:17, archived)

god i have to meet you:)

( Mykeyboy A massive, salty filing cabinet, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 12:21, archived)

Yids stabbing poofs.
What's not to be amused at?
( baldmonkey a frothy foul-smelling vaginal discharge, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 11:46, archived)

You
shirtlifting shylock
( comrade yannovski and then, of course, there was the schnapps monkey, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 11:47, archived)

Sorry.
*hangs head in shame*
( baldmonkey a frothy foul-smelling vaginal discharge, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 11:51, archived)

The correct retort to such an insult is
"You hooknosed bender"
( comrade yannovski and then, of course, there was the schnapps monkey, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 11:52, archived)

Sorry.
*hangs head homosexuals in shame*
( baldmonkey a frothy foul-smelling vaginal discharge, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 12:00, archived)

Haha, people are injured.
It's funny because they're not real people since I don't know them.
( s0WmVHAwZgpG, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 11:47, archived)

And as you know
Gays arent people like you or i
( Mykeyboy A massive, salty filing cabinet, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 11:48, archived)

Exactly.
They should go back where they came from.
( s0WmVHAwZgpG, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 11:49, archived)

Greece?

( comrade yannovski and then, of course, there was the schnapps monkey, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 11:49, archived)

Now that ^
was funny.
( Lonewolf - O R'lyeh? Ya R'lyeh!, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 11:51, archived)

No,
Brighton.
( Flapjack I spay a little mare for you, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 11:51, archived)

What a
frightening thought.
[edit: I've never heard the term "heeb" before, and so had no idea what you were on about.]
( monster munch person, man, woman... camera... TV?, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 11:40, archived)

Perhaps sir would prefer Yidds?

( Nimble Colin camera-wrangling, globe-trotting whisky enthusiast, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 11:46, archived)

Generally speaking,
I'd prefer to refrain from using what abusive terms*, when referring to ethnic and/or religious groups.

*Regardless of whether the abuse is expressly intended, or inferred by the reader.

Then again, free speech and all that.

Carry on.
( monster munch person, man, woman... camera... TV?, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 11:52, archived)

Shut up,
blue foot.
( baldmonkey a frothy foul-smelling vaginal discharge, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 11:53, archived)

I like this,
because I don't understand it.
( monster munch person, man, woman... camera... TV?, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 11:55, archived)

I had a friend at university who was coloured and from Africa.
We got pissed and I started calling him 'nigger' and he started calling me 'bluefoot'.
Apparently, this is an offensive term for white people where he came from.
( baldmonkey a frothy foul-smelling vaginal discharge, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 11:58, archived)

Duly noted.

( monster munch person, man, woman... camera... TV?, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 12:03, archived)

Fuck off coon

( Mykeyboy A massive, salty filing cabinet, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 11:55, archived)

Race riot!
Rivers of blood!

I'm so white. During the race riots, I went out and bought a TV.
/bobby hill
( monster munch person, man, woman... camera... TV?, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 11:57, archived)

This.
It's not suddenly less shitty when it's us doing it.
( Newington, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 11:56, archived)

Who is "us"?
edit: And the idea was that I was suggesting that maybe it would be easier for everyone concerned if Mykey used more overt terms of derision.
( Nimble Colin camera-wrangling, globe-trotting whisky enthusiast, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 11:59, archived)

Us non-nigger/yid/gook... blah blah blah
I think Robin is saying we should take the moral high ground over ethnic minority scum.
( baldmonkey a frothy foul-smelling vaginal discharge, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 12:01, archived)

That's a mighty big presumption that we don't fall into the groups who come under flak here.
It also strikes me as being a little, I don't know, patronising(? - I suspect I've not got the right term but I'm at a loss to think of one) implying that "If you aren't on of them, you shouldn't be having a dig.
( Nimble Colin camera-wrangling, globe-trotting whisky enthusiast, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 12:06, archived)

It's also not what I meant at all.
By us I meant us, you and me and the other /talk regulars.
If a skinhead spraypaints "kill the poofs and niggers" on a bus stop, that's shitty.
If one of us lot posts it on b3ta/talk because we think it's funny, that is, if anything, more shitty, because we should be intelligent enough to know better.

At least the skinhead actually believes what he's saying.
( Newington, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 12:09, archived)

Hypocritically,
agreed.
( baldmonkey a frothy foul-smelling vaginal discharge, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 12:12, archived)

I wrote this before I saw your answer to my question and it
only stands if you had meant what baldmonkey had said. I'm glad you meant b3tans but I'm not sure it is any more or less shitty than the bus stop example. It's all shit as far as I'm concerned.
( Nimble Colin camera-wrangling, globe-trotting whisky enthusiast, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 12:13, archived)

I have no idea what Mykey's actual feelings are about homosexuals, ethnic minorites
or religious groups. Chances are, his use of abusive terms is ironic, with humorous intent. That's fine by me, and no skin of my nose if he wants to carry on. Nonetheless, for the reasons you've outlined above, it makes me slightly uncomfortable.

Now, everyone kiss and make up, and we'll pretend that this never happened.
( monster munch person, man, woman... camera... TV?, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 12:16, archived)

*Kisses everything in surrounding area*

( baldmonkey a frothy foul-smelling vaginal discharge, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 12:18, archived)

The problem with that is,
it's not actually funny, is it?
( Newington, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 12:19, archived)

No,
I didn't find it particularly amusing either, but it's probably best that we just move on. Any attempts to address the issue will quickly degenerate into name calling and generally troll-like behaviour.

The trouble with arguing on internet message boards is that, no matter who wins, you're both losers. Or something.
( monster munch person, man, woman... camera... TV?, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 12:27, archived)

I keep going to write things and continuously re-wording and then
deleting because I'm either going to look like a twat, sound overly apologetic, hypocritical, patronising or all of the above. The bottom line is, I posted something that I possibly shouldn't have done although I don't see it as being offensive and I'm regretting it now.

*kisses you all*
( Nimble Colin camera-wrangling, globe-trotting whisky enthusiast, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 12:19, archived)

Careful there, you might accidentally think something.
I'd kiss you, but Mykey might call us queers
( Newington, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 12:25, archived)

I'm being a bit vague.
I am coming at this from a slightly different viewpoint (although you would be quite correct in pointing out that it is no excuse) and I hadn't particularly wished to disclose it. Half my family and technically myself also, are Jewish. In fact there is no trace of any of my ancestors on my mother's side of the family beyond my great grandparents as they were all from Czechoslovakia & Poland and killed in the holocaust. In spite of this, I have never been particularly offended by Mykey and also deemed my offhand comment to be tame enough to warrant posting, at least in the name of low-brow humour. It has become clear that this is a little offensive to a few people so I shall refrain in future.
( Nimble Colin camera-wrangling, globe-trotting whisky enthusiast, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 12:34, archived)

b3tans

( Newington, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 12:02, archived)

Hilarious.
Absolutely side-splitting. I can barely type for laughing. Honestly.
(Withiel assumes the position!, Mon 4 Jul 2005, 11:59, archived)