I've just seen the Walking Dead prosthetic wounds on the Forbidden Planet website.
OH. EM. GEE. It'd take me hours to achieve some of those wounds with makeup. I'm going to have FUN.
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Tue 27 Sep 2011, 12:59, archived)

Those zombies made no sense at all.
did not approve.
( RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:01, archived)

How so?

( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:06, archived)

Because excessive AKB stops him just enjoying something that was really quite good.

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:07, archived)

I can understand someone saying that the zombies in 28 days later *aren't* zombies
but TWD keeps to a fairly classic idea of zombification.
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:14, archived)

I agree.
People get infected, die and reanimate as mindless predators. That is about as detailed as you need to be to class something as a zombie.
( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:15, archived)

they turned their heads etc... why? what are they using their heads for?
if a zombie is more a case of a mega virus that is inhabiting a lump of meat for whatever benefits it gets, what use does it have for a head, eyes etc?
( RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:18, archived)

You don't appear to use your head for much either, but you still have one.

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:20, archived)

so, answer my question then if you can. if it makes sense then fine.

( RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:21, archived)

You know that zombies are just infected people, right?
They had heads before they became zombies. And if I recall, the zombies on TWD navigated via hearing and sense of smell.
( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:23, archived)

so it's the corpse that is hearing? not the virus / whatever?

( RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:24, archived)

In this case, yes.
It depends on which work of fiction you are referring to. Because it's fiction, and the people writing the fiction decide how it all works, because it's fiction.
( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:26, archived)

Look at how parasitic insects and mushrooms infect and control their hosts...

( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:26, archived)

that stuff is utterly fascinating.
I'd presume that a lot of the learnings from those are used in decent zombie writing.
( RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:29, archived)

Have you ever actually read any zombie writing? At all?
If you haven't read any, how can you possibly judge 'good' or 'bad'?
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:31, archived)

nope, i'm not interested
I would think that anyone should be allowed to judge something like that purely on its own merit. you shouldn't need to be well read to watch a poor quality american drama.
( RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:34, archived)

what?

( janet aylia y'all motherfuckers need jesus, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:34, archived)

what what??

( RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:35, archived)

oh, the ninja edit.
the fact is, whether you're reading or watching something that you find basically interesting, if it's fiction then there must surely come a point where you can let 'suspension of disbelief' go in order to just enjoy something? if you're not enjoying it, then give it up as a bad job and SHUT UP.
( janet aylia y'all motherfuckers need jesus, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:37, archived)

I saw the end of the series, but I won't watch the next one
To totally exagerate what I mean, when they were in one of those many alleys being cornered, why didn't they just fire their jet powered rocket shows and blast off? because they didn't have them, they could have had them if that was how the show worked, but they didn't because it wasn't.
( RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:42, archived)

You denty brained spastic.

( Undulating Tentacles of Love getting fun down to acceptable levels, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:55, archived)

What's wrong with you?

( mike woz ere 7442200 & 7696970 getter, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 14:35, archived)

Right, so you're not interested in the exact thing that your original argument is based upon?

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:35, archived)

i'm not "into" it, but as a viewer my thoughts should still be permitted.
I wouldn't doubt for a second that plenty of other zombie versions would sit fine with me.
( RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:36, archived)

WHAT IS EVERYONE'S FUCKING PROBLEM HERE, BATMAN IS CLEARLY NOT A CLASSIC ZOMBIE, FOR CHRISTBUGFUCKERING SAKE

( vladimir, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:45, archived)

TOO FEW DINOSAURS BY FUCKING FAR

( mongychops, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:49, archived)

dino-superpowers:
ADVANCED HIDING
ability to flatten self out between layers of sedimentary buildup which convert over millions of years into rock
BRAINWASHING
ability to convert the brainspaces of young human males into exclusive storage facilities for all facts about self
BITING
ability to have lots of teeth
( vladimir, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:59, archived)

he's not interested.

( janet aylia y'all motherfuckers need jesus, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:34, archived)

Nah, everyone just bases their zombies now off of George A. Romero's zombies.

( MONO!, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:32, archived)

you fucking bellend.

( janet aylia y'all motherfuckers need jesus, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:20, archived)

oh. i see you have me on ignore for talking about your wife's cavernous ladyhole yesterday.

( janet aylia y'all motherfuckers need jesus, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:26, archived)

i wouldn't dream of it.
just nothing to reply to, without sounding like an even bigger prick.
( RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:28, archived)

I find that so very hard to believe.

( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:29, archived)

I can *always* look worse.

( RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:52, archived)

I can just about get that too.
They're wrong though. Pricks.
( Blue Star was working part time at the 5 and Dime, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:16, archived)

Indeed.

( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:17, archived)

It was just so vague as to how they keep working.
There was something I was reading a while ago which tried to lay down rules on how zombies can make sense and work.

there were just a millions things that didn't make sense about it, *WITHIN* the realms of suspending disbelief. TBH i've managed to forget most of the things that annoyed me...

oh, like why when shot through the head was there blood splatters everywhere? why would a rotten corpse splatter liquid blood?
( RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:16, archived)

Well if you weren't so fucking autistic as to have some sense of imagination you could just pass it off as part of the physiology of their reanimated state.

( Undulating Tentacles of Love getting fun down to acceptable levels, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:18, archived)

Your silence speaks volumes.

( Undulating Tentacles of Love getting fun down to acceptable levels, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:26, archived)

i'mnot silent, i've not stopped typing for 10 minutes. I've just gone over that elsewhere, so i'd just be repeating myself.

( RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:30, archived)

difference being I hit the nail on the fucking head.

( Undulating Tentacles of Love getting fun down to acceptable levels, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:32, archived)

no you didn't. my imagination is just fine thanks.

( RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:35, archived)

well I came up for a explanation that would be plausible within the fiction just then
where you had failed to.
( Undulating Tentacles of Love getting fun down to acceptable levels, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:53, archived)

A wizard did it.

( Lord Gnome, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:55, archived)

can you prove empirically that anyone has ever confirmed the veracity of a statement by hitting a nail on its head?
because, if not, i'd rather you kept your half-baked logical fallacies to yourself.
( janet aylia y'all motherfuckers need jesus, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:36, archived)

fallacies
hehehehe
( RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:37, archived)

phallacy envy
sheshesheshe
( vladimir, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:48, archived)

which is the only way to kill a nail
as is well established in the genre
( manolith hooray for me, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 14:04, archived)

You fucking spastic.

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:18, archived)

that's a bit of a shit reply. why bother?

( RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:20, archived)

Because it's all I can muster without wanting to reach through the internet and shake you until you stop being autistic.

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:24, archived)

Right, so it's not the Walking Dead that confuse you...
just Zombies in general.

Get 'The Zombie Survival Guide'. It will explain everything in detail.
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:18, archived)

no thanks. not interested in it.

( RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:20, archived)

Then stop being a nobend.
The answers to your questions are available within as a construct within a non-consensus reality. Basically that construct allows you to suspend your sense of disbelief and make sense of the idea of zombification.

Or you know, you could just understand that it's MADE-UP, NOT REAL, AND DOES NOT NEED TO MAKE PERFECT SCIENTIFIC SENSE.

I bet you are the kind of cunt that watches Star Wars and says things like '*sharp nasal inhalation' You know, the spaceship wouldn't make a noise when it exploded and you wouldn't hear the Tie-Fighters because space is a vacumnn blah blah blah'.

You cunt.
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:25, archived)

He is exactly that kind of cunt.

( Undulating Tentacles of Love getting fun down to acceptable levels, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:27, archived)

GOD FORBID SOMETHING SHOULD SACRIFICE UNQUESTIONABLE SCIENTIFIC ACCURACY FOR ENTERTAINMENT VALUE.

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:27, archived)

I read a really interesting book called "The Science of Star Wars" once.
It didn't just say "that wouldn't happen" but it explained how it could happen if x, y and z.
The bit on Robots I found very interesting though it was written when bipedal robots were only just being realised so it's a little out of date now.
( MONO!, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:31, archived)

it wasn't awful
I mean, I thought the program itself was awful, when the mental guy was handcuffed on the roof top he could have so so easily reached the toolbag with his foot....

but the zombies just didn't seem as well thought through as they could have been. Obviously you have to accept plenty of things to deal with zombies at all, just didn't sit right with me.

I just don't really go for that sort of stuff though, not going to keep me up all night worrying.
( RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:32, archived)

The Walking Dead TV series was shit.
The Comic is FAR better.
( MONO!, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:34, archived)

You see, I like the TV series...
but I agree - the comic is absolutely fucking brilliant.
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:39, archived)

Personally I enjoyed the first couple of episodes.
but the last few were, in my opinion, awful.
( MONO!, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:44, archived)

Change that to THOROUGHLY enjoyed.
I just felt so let down :(
( MONO!, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:45, archived)

oh yeah, just remembered them. the underground bunker and all that shit.
that was attrocious. I think that might have made sense if it was over an additional 5 episodes, but it was just shite.
( RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:45, archived)

It's like they started with the start of the comics and slowly started replacing the writers for the tv scripts with people who'd never even heard of a zombie.

( MONO!, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:48, archived)

I've heard that a few times, I'd imagine it was great.

( RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:40, archived)

I think the point was that he couldn't reach the toolbag with his foot.

( mike woz ere 7442200 & 7696970 getter, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:35, archived)

I don't *think* he ever tried. I think he tried with his hand, but never his foot.

( RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:38, archived)

I think he actually did. I think you actually saw that happen.

( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:42, archived)

I don't quite remember but don't you see him get the bag and then try to saw through the handcuffs with the saw from the bag?

( MONO!, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:46, archived)

Yes, he couldn't reach the key and ended up cutting his hand off.

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:49, archived)

and why didn't he saw through the pipe?
The nice lovely hollow pipe?
( RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:49, archived)

Because flesh and bone are easier to saw through and break.

( MONO!, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:50, archived)

Pfft!
one option leaves you with no hand, and in agony...
( RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:51, archived)

But he's a cunt so yeah.

( MONO!, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:52, archived)

The pipe would've been too big for a little hacksaw anyway, but the bolt that he was cuffed to would've probably almost snapped off with a sharp tug.
but hey it's tv.
( MONO!, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:52, archived)

"but hey it's tv."
well there you go... it's only TV so who cares...

sounds a lot like lots of kids TV. Kids TV can be awesome and so clever, and so many kids pick up on it.
( RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:53, archived)

Great.
What?
( MONO!, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:57, archived)

I think Acid Kewpie has a selective memory so he can feel like he's right all the time.

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:47, archived)

do you remember him doing that?
I recall seeing him reaching with his hand and being about 2 foot short.
( RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:49, archived)

What you are saying doesn't actually make any sense. At all.
I'd argue this more, but you are contradicting yourself constantly and therefore it is ultimately pointless.
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:35, archived)

I don't think I am, but I do suck at explaining myself
but that's part of the whole point, contradictions and inconsistencies make lots of TV programs / films pointless.
( RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:39, archived)

I think what you're missing is that it's all fictional and, like vampires, the "rules" vary from writer to writer
Original Mexican Zombies (or is it caribbean zombies) would suddenly realise they were dead and return to their graves if they ate meat.
( MONO!, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:23, archived)

Wait, people are allowed to make up their own rules when writing fiction?

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:24, archived)

Apparently.

( MONO!, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:26, archived)

The CUNTS.

( Blue Star was working part time at the 5 and Dime, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:28, archived)

I thought it was salt?

( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:26, archived)

I read meat somewhere, though you might be right
But it was all superstious stuff anyway so it probably varied greatly depending on who you asked.
( MONO!, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:28, archived)

It's tofu
Zombies are inherently intolerant to soya products.
( Lord Gnome, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 14:08, archived)

What?
Zombies make no sense at all.

'Zombies by their very nature are inconsistent' - Alan Partridge
( Blue Star was working part time at the 5 and Dime, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:08, archived)

Hahaha!

( Undulating Tentacles of Love getting fun down to acceptable levels, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:19, archived)

I just tend to think that you need to clearly define your own universe
whatever it is, and make sense within the context of that. Applies to kids programs too. Even Spongebob makes sense given the limits it sets itself.
( RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:19, archived)

You intolerable fucking nerd.

( Undulating Tentacles of Love getting fun down to acceptable levels, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:21, archived)

blah blah blah
things are much more enjoyable if you stick to your own rules. Otherwise you have sloppy writing that invents things as it goes along that undermine previous things massively, so there's no point in bothering. Like Lost did a lot. If you keep moving your own goalposts it sucks.
( RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:24, archived)

you don't really like made-up stuff, do you?
or anything that isn't done by your own rules. which is fair enough but, you know, SHUT UP.
( janet aylia y'all motherfuckers need jesus, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:27, archived)

Thing is, they DO stick to their rules.
You just cannot be bothered to find out what those rules are.
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:28, archived)

No you're just picking holes because it gives you some sense that you are somehow superior to people that just watch it and take inconsistencies for granted
you're an A grade shit nerd archetype, just fucking stop it.
( Undulating Tentacles of Love getting fun down to acceptable levels, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:29, archived)

The thing is, Lost was actually really poorly written because they had to cut massive chunks out during the writers strike, and just half-arsed it.
See also: Heroes.
( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:34, archived)

Heroes is an excellent example of inconsistency actually, yeah, totally moving the goalposts non stop.
TWD was not in the same league at all.
( RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:44, archived)

Fuck off do you.
Our own, real life universe isn't clearly defined. Shit just happens. You're allowed to make a work of fiction without explaining it all in hyperautistic detail.
( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:21, archived)

you don't have to explain it, just write within it.
you really think that really good sci-fi doesn't have a hell of a lot of rules and thought behind how you can write effectively? All these heroes of cinema etc, Kevin Smith or whoever know vast amounts of stuff like this, that the viewers don't, and don't need to, but the result is a much much better output.
( RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:27, archived)

The Walking Dead as with most zombie apocalypse scenarios is more about how humans react to the desperate situation in which they are placed
the zombies for the most part are just a plot device and could be replaced aliens, robots, mutant cats etc.
( Undulating Tentacles of Love getting fun down to acceptable levels, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:31, archived)

Indeed. Also, the zombies in TWD follow very strict rules.
I'm a nerd, it's what we look for.
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:34, archived)

So if it didn't fit the rules you specifically know
you'd have been a hater?

Isn't that exactly what you described me as???

Pot kettle kettle pot
( RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:58, archived)

the walking mutant cats
i'd watch it
( manolith hooray for me, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:55, archived)

Mutant cats vs alien robots?
Someone call Michael Bay.
( Lord Gnome, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 14:08, archived)

what should i call him

( manolith hooray for me, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 14:08, archived)

"A cunt" would be a start

( Lord Gnome, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 14:09, archived)

sounds about right
he really is a shit
( manolith hooray for me, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 14:22, archived)

It's not so much the crap he has directed
As much as the crap he has produced- all those completely unnecessary remakes of classic horror films.

Looking at his IMDb page it would appear that he's producing a remake of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles at the moment. To be fair I don't really care about that one but I'm not looking forward to the remake of The Birds that he also seems to be involved with.
( Lord Gnome, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 14:30, archived)

A ruining prick

( Blue Star was working part time at the 5 and Dime, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 14:14, archived)

This works too.

( Lord Gnome, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 14:17, archived)

i love how accurate this is
www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeSUuj98Rx0
( manolith hooray for me, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 14:24, archived)

Oh sure, totally aware of that
Shame there wasn't a worthwhile storyline for it to enable though.
( RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 14:02, archived)

STOP 'SPERGING ALL OVER THIS THREAD.
you make MGT look like fearne fucking cotton.
( janet aylia y'all motherfuckers need jesus, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:22, archived)

Bit harsh on MGT there.

( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:26, archived)

Hahaha!

( Blue Star was working part time at the 5 and Dime, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:33, archived)

sometimes you have to make a sacrifice in order to prove a meaningless point on the internet.
i'm sure MGT would be ok with this.
( janet aylia y'all motherfuckers need jesus, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:34, archived)

Fucking hell, I've already pointed you to a resource THAT DOES EXACTLY THAT.

( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:27, archived)

please
please tell us your twatty reason for saying this. we can't wait to hear it. really.
( manolith hooray for me, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:12, archived)

Did you get my text?

( Blue Star was working part time at the 5 and Dime, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:13, archived)

yes, bad news
:(
( manolith hooray for me, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:15, archived)

It'll be because they weren't exactly identical to the zombies in the Romero films.
Even though they changed with every film. AKB like a motherfucker.
( BraynDedd Natasha Kaplinsky's labia majora, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:14, archived)

I hope the last 30 minutes
has shown that I have no idea at all who Romero is. I'm not like that at all. Sounds like most other people are though.
( RocketSurgeon is pretending he's still young, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:47, archived)

Is this going to be a 'zombie movie' vs 'outbreak movie' argument?
Because if it is, I don't have the strength.
( Two Hats 🎩🎩, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:15, archived)

Thing is, I can kind of understand that argument, if you want to be really pedantic
but TWD isn't really an 'outbreak movie', not as far as I can tell from the books or the TV series.
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:17, archived)

No, you're right. it's title suggests that it's zombies
As in proper, full-on dead people.
( Two Hats 🎩🎩, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:18, archived)

It would be a lot quicker to use a sharp knife instead.
And more realistic.
( Lord Gnome, Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:05, archived)

Social Services tend to frown on that sort of thing.

( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Tue 27 Sep 2011, 13:15, archived)