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# agreed, jabbing people with sticks is not the same as calm discussion in an attempt to achieve understanding of all sides
(, Thu 20 May 2010, 10:11, archived)
# no sticks involved
they're just drawings
(, Thu 20 May 2010, 10:12, archived)
# see my point below....
(, Thu 20 May 2010, 10:16, archived)